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Why did Washington ESD unemployment deny my claim - need help understanding

Got my determination letter yesterday and Washington ESD denied my unemployment claim. The letter says 'insufficient wages' but I worked full time for 8 months last year making $18/hour. I don't understand how that's not enough wages? The letter is confusing and doesn't really explain what I did wrong. Has anyone else gotten denied for insufficient wages when they thought they had enough work history?

The insufficient wages denial usually means you didn't earn enough in your base period quarters to qualify. Washington ESD looks at specific quarters, not just your total work time. What was your total gross wages for the year?

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I made around $28,000 total but I started the job in April so maybe that's the issue? I don't really understand how the quarters work.

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That's likely the problem - if you started in April, you might not have enough wages in the right quarters. The base period is usually the first 4 of the last 5 completed quarters before you filed.

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yeah i got denied for the same thing last year, turns out i needed to work longer before filing. the timing really matters with washington esd

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How long did you have to work before you could qualify? I'm worried I'll have to wait months to reapply.

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i had to wait like 3 months then refiled when i had more quarters of work. it sucked but eventually got approved

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If you're having trouble understanding the denial or need to check your wage history, you might want to call Washington ESD directly. I know their phone lines are super busy, but I recently found this service called Claimyr (claimyr.com) that helps you get through to an actual agent. They have a demo video at https://youtu.be/7DieNd3C7zQ showing how it works. Might be worth checking out if you need to talk to someone about your base period wages.

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Thanks! I've been trying to call for days but keep getting the busy signal. I'll check out that Claimyr thing.

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Never heard of Claimyr before but honestly anything that helps get through to Washington ESD is worth a try. Their phone system is impossible.

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INSUFFICIENT WAGES DENIAL IS THE WORST! I got this same denial and spent weeks trying to figure out what went wrong. Turns out Washington ESD has very specific rules about which quarters count and you need a minimum amount in your highest quarter. It's not just about working full time - it's about WHEN you worked and how much you made in specific time periods.

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Ugh this is so frustrating! I worked hard and paid taxes but apparently that's not enough. Did you eventually get it sorted out?

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Yes but it took forever! I had to wait and refile when I had more qualifying wages. The whole system is set up to confuse people.

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Check your online account on the Washington ESD website - there should be a wage history section that shows exactly what wages they have on file for each quarter. Sometimes employers don't report wages correctly or there are delays.

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Good idea! I'll log in and check that. Maybe my employer didn't report something right.

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Yeah definitely check that first. If wages are missing you can contact your employer to make sure they reported everything to Washington ESD.

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same thing happened to my sister she worked but didnt have enough in the right quarters. washington esd is really picky about the timing

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It's crazy that you can work full time and still not qualify. This system doesn't make sense.

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To qualify for unemployment in Washington, you need to have earned wages in at least two quarters of your base period, and your total base period wages need to be at least 680 times the state minimum wage. Since you started in April, your base period might not include enough quarters of work.

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That's a lot of money! I definitely didn't make that much. So I just have to wait and work more before I can get unemployment?

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Unfortunately yes, you'll need to build up more qualifying wages. You can try filing again in a few months when you have more quarters of work history.

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This happened to me too! I was so confused by the denial letter. What helped me was calling Washington ESD and having them explain exactly what wages they had on file and what the requirements were. I used that Claimyr service someone mentioned earlier and it actually worked - got through to an agent in like 20 minutes instead of waiting on hold for hours.

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Really? That's amazing! I've been trying to call for days. Was it expensive to use Claimyr?

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I don't remember the exact cost but it was worth it to actually talk to someone. The agent was able to explain exactly why I was denied and what I needed to do.

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washington esd denied me too but for different reasons. the insufficient wages thing is super common though especially for people who just started working recently

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Yeah it seems like a lot of people get this denial. I wish they explained it better in the letter.

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You should also check if you qualify for the alternate base period. Sometimes if you don't qualify under the regular base period, Washington ESD will automatically check the alternate base period which uses more recent wages. This might help if you started your job recently.

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How do I know if they checked the alternate base period? The letter doesn't mention it.

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You'd need to call and ask. They should automatically check it but sometimes things get missed. That's another reason to actually talk to an agent.

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The wage requirements are really confusing. I had to have my sister who works in HR explain it to me. Basically you need enough wages in specific time periods and it's not just about working full time recently.

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Yeah I'm starting to understand that now. I wish I had known this before I got laid off.

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I got denied for insufficient wages too but then qualified a few months later when I had more work history. It's frustrating but you just have to wait it out sometimes.

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How long did you have to wait? I'm worried about paying bills while I wait to reapply.

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It was about 4 months for me. I know it's tough but there are other assistance programs that might help in the meantime.

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Check with your local WorkSource office too - they might be able to help explain the denial and what your options are. Sometimes they have programs for people who don't qualify for regular unemployment.

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Good idea! I didn't think about going to WorkSource. I'll look up where the nearest office is.

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THE WHOLE WASHINGTON ESD SYSTEM IS DESIGNED TO DENY PEOPLE! They make the rules so complicated that working people can't get help when they need it. It's ridiculous that you can work full time and still not qualify for unemployment benefits.

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I'm starting to feel that way too. It seems like they don't want to help people who actually need it.

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I understand the frustration but the wage requirements are there for a reason. The system has to make sure people have enough work history to qualify.

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definitely try calling washington esd to get more details about your specific situation. even if the lines are busy its worth trying to get through

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Yeah I'll keep trying. Maybe I'll try that Claimyr thing if I can't get through on my own.

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I had a similar situation last year. What helped me was getting copies of my pay stubs and checking them against what Washington ESD had on file. Turned out my employer had reported some wages late.

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That's a good point! I should check my pay stubs against their records. Maybe there's a discrepancy.

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Yeah definitely worth checking. Sometimes fixing wage reporting issues can change the outcome of your claim.

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You can also appeal the denial if you think there's an error. You have 30 days from the date of the determination letter to file an appeal with Washington ESD.

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Is it worth appealing if I really didn't work long enough? Or should I just wait and refile later?

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If you're sure the wages are correct and you just don't have enough work history, appealing probably won't help. But if you think there's an error in their wage records, then yes, appeal.

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this whole thread is making me nervous about my own claim. i just filed last week and now im worried i might get denied too

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How long did you work before filing? If you worked for over a year you're probably fine.

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i worked for about 10 months so hopefully thats enough. guess ill find out soon

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I used Claimyr a few weeks ago when I had questions about my claim and it was super helpful. The agent was able to pull up my account and explain everything clearly. Much better than trying to figure it out from the confusing letters they send.

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That sounds really helpful. I think I'm going to try it because I need to understand exactly what went wrong with my claim.

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Thanks everyone for all the advice! I'm going to check my wage history online first, then try to call Washington ESD to get more details. If I can't get through I'll try that Claimyr service. At least now I understand why I got denied instead of just being confused.

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Good plan! Understanding the wage requirements is key. Don't get discouraged - you'll likely qualify once you have more work history.

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Yeah definitely check those wages first. And don't hesitate to use Claimyr if you need to talk to someone - it really does work for getting through to Washington ESD.

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