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Lena Kowalski

Washington ESD denied my unemployment claim - why was my unemployment denied?

Just got a letter saying Washington ESD denied my unemployment claim and I'm completely confused. I was laid off from my warehouse job last month due to company downsizing and thought I'd qualify automatically. The denial letter mentions something about 'insufficient wage credits' but I worked there for 8 months full-time. I made about $18/hour and never missed work except for one sick day. Does anyone know what this means? I really need these benefits to pay rent while I job search.

The 'insufficient wage credits' usually means you didn't earn enough wages during your base period to qualify for UI benefits. Washington ESD looks at your earnings from 5 quarters ago through 2 quarters ago, not your most recent work. So if you only worked 8 months at your current job, they might not be counting those wages yet.

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That doesn't make sense though - why wouldn't they count my recent work? I was making good money there.

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It's how the system works unfortunately. Your base period is set when you file. If you didn't work much during that earlier timeframe, you might not qualify even with recent good wages.

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same thing happened to me! worked at a restaurant for 6 months but got denied because i was in school before that and barely worked

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Did you end up getting it sorted out somehow?

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nope, had to wait and reapply later when more of my wages counted

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You need to request an alternate base period calculation. If your standard base period doesn't have enough wages, Washington ESD can look at a more recent time frame that includes your warehouse job. Call them and specifically ask about alternate base period eligibility.

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How do I get through to them? I've been trying to call for days and either get busy signals or disconnected.

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Never heard of that but I'm desperate at this point. Thanks for the tip!

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THE WHOLE SYSTEM IS BROKEN! They deny people left and right for technical reasons while we're struggling to survive. I got denied twice before finally getting approved on appeal. Don't give up - they're hoping you'll just go away.

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What did you do differently on your appeal that worked?

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Had to get documentation from all my previous employers showing exact dates and wages. Pain in the butt but worth it.

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Also check if there are any other issues mentioned in your denial letter. Sometimes there are multiple reasons listed - work availability, job separation circumstances, or wage issues. Each one needs to be addressed separately if you appeal.

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The letter just says insufficient wage credits, nothing else that I can see.

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That's good - means it's likely just a base period calculation issue that can be fixed with the alternate base period request.

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Wait, were you fired or laid off? If there was any misconduct involved that could be another reason for denial even if you have enough wage credits.

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Definitely laid off due to company downsizing. They eliminated my whole department. I have the layoff notice as proof.

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Ok good, then it's probably just the wage credit thing. Keep that layoff notice handy for your appeal.

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Here's exactly what you need to do: 1) Request alternate base period review, 2) Gather pay stubs from your warehouse job, 3) If that doesn't work, file an appeal within 30 days of your denial date. The appeal deadline is strict so don't wait.

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Should I do the alternate base period thing first or just go straight to appeal?

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Try the alternate base period first - it's faster than an appeal if it works. But don't let the appeal deadline pass while you're waiting.

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I'm dealing with the same issue right now. Been trying to reach Washington ESD for over a week. The phone system is absolutely terrible - either busy or they hang up on you after an hour wait.

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Is it worth it though? I'm already broke from being unemployed.

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Way cheaper than missing out on weeks of benefits because you can't get through to fix your claim. I got my issue resolved in one call.

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the base period thing is so confusing. why cant they just look at your most recent work like normal people would?

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It's because they need time to process wage reports from employers. The system is designed around quarterly reporting cycles, which creates these gaps.

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still stupid if you ask me

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What was your total earnings during the base period? You need at least $1,000 in your highest quarter and total wages of 1.5 times your highest quarter. If your warehouse job wasn't during the base period, you might not meet these minimums.

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I don't even know what my base period is or how to calculate that. This is all so complicated.

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Your denial letter should show your base period dates and quarterly wage amounts. Look for a section that breaks down wages by quarter.

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Had a friend who got denied for wage credits but it turned out his employer never reported his wages properly to Washington ESD. Might be worth checking if all your wages are showing up correctly in their system.

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How would I check that? Is there a way to see what wages they have on file?

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You can request a wage and benefit statement from Washington ESD that shows all reported wages. Helps identify if there are missing or incorrect wage reports.

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The timing really matters here. When exactly did you file your claim versus when you started and stopped working at the warehouse? That determines which wages count toward your eligibility.

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I filed about 2 weeks after getting laid off. Started the warehouse job last March and got laid off in early November.

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If you filed in November, your base period would typically be April 2023 through March 2024. Your warehouse wages from March onward might not be in the standard base period calculation.

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Don't panic yet! This is actually pretty common and fixable. The alternate base period option exists specifically for situations like yours where recent work isn't counted in the standard calculation.

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That's reassuring to hear. I was starting to think I'd never get benefits.

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Nah, you just hit a paperwork snag. Once they count your warehouse wages properly, you should qualify easily with that income level.

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Whatever you do, don't ignore this. I know someone who got a denial, didn't appeal in time, and then had to wait months to reapply. The 30-day appeal deadline is serious business.

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Got it - I'll make sure to file an appeal before the deadline even if I'm trying other options first.

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Smart move. You can always withdraw the appeal later if the alternate base period fixes everything.

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The key is getting through to someone at Washington ESD who can actually explain your specific situation. The automated systems and online portal don't give you the full picture of what's going on with your claim.

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Exactly why I ended up using that Claimyr service someone mentioned earlier. Saved me literally hours of trying to get through their phone system. Worth every penny to actually talk to a human about my claim.

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Yeah, the phone situation is ridiculous. You shouldn't need a third-party service just to reach your own state agency, but here we are.

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Make sure you understand the difference between standard and alternate base periods before you call. Standard looks at older quarters, alternate includes more recent wages. You want the alternate calculation in your case.

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Is there any downside to requesting the alternate base period calculation?

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No downside at all. If you don't qualify under alternate either, you're no worse off than you are now.

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One more thing - if you do get approved after the alternate base period review, they should backdate your benefits to when you first filed. So don't worry about losing those weeks while this gets sorted out.

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That's a relief! I was worried I'd lose out on benefits for the time this takes to resolve.

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Nope, as long as you were eligible during those weeks, you'll get paid retroactively once approved.

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Good luck with this! It's frustrating but definitely not hopeless. Lots of people go through this same issue and get it resolved. Just stay on top of the deadlines and keep pushing for answers.

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Thanks everyone for all the advice. I feel way more confident about dealing with this now.

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You've got this! Come back and update us on how it goes.

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The whole wage credit system needs an overhaul. Too many people get caught in these timing gaps where their recent wages don't count. It's especially hard on people who are just starting their careers or changing jobs.

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Agreed completely. The system was designed decades ago and doesn't reflect how people actually work nowadays.

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Exactly - gig economy, contract work, career changes - none of it fits the old quarterly reporting model very well.

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One last tip - when you do talk to Washington ESD, ask them to walk through your wage history quarter by quarter. Sometimes there are wages from previous jobs that you forgot about that could help you qualify even under the standard base period.

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Good point - I did work part-time at a retail job before the warehouse. Maybe those wages count.

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Could be just enough to push you over the minimum threshold! Worth asking about for sure.

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