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Leo Simmons

Washington ESD denied my unemployment claim - why would unemployment be denied?

Got a letter yesterday saying my unemployment claim was denied by Washington ESD. I'm completely shocked because I thought I qualified. I was laid off from my retail job after 8 months due to store closure. The denial letter mentions something about 'insufficient base period wages' but I don't understand what that means. I worked full-time and made decent money. Why would unemployment be denied in a situation like this? I'm panicking because I have rent due next week and no other income. Has anyone else dealt with this?

The 'insufficient base period wages' means you didn't earn enough during your base period to qualify for benefits. Washington ESD looks at your earnings from 5 quarters ago through 2 quarters ago, not your most recent work. So if you only worked 8 months, depending on when you started, you might not have enough wages in that specific timeframe.

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Oh wow, that's confusing. So they don't count my recent work? I started in March 2024 and got laid off in November 2024.

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Exactly. For a claim filed in late 2024, they'd look at your wages from Q2 2023 through Q1 2024. If you weren't working then, that's your problem.

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There are actually several reasons Washington ESD denies claims. Insufficient wages is just one. You could also get denied for quitting without good cause, being fired for misconduct, not being able and available for work, or not meeting the job search requirements.

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I was definitely laid off, not fired or quit. Store closed completely. But the wage thing might be it.

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Even with layoffs, sometimes there are other issues. Did you have any attendance problems or warnings before the layoff?

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No, nothing like that. I was a good employee. Manager even said she'd give me a reference.

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Never heard of that. Is it legit? I'm desperate at this point.

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How much does it cost though? I'm already broke from being unemployed.

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You need to appeal this ASAP. You only have 30 days from the denial date to file an appeal with Washington ESD. Don't wait around trying to figure it out - get that appeal in first.

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How do I appeal? The letter wasn't super clear about the process.

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You can appeal online through your SecureAccess Washington account or mail in the appeal form. Online is faster.

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Washington ESD is so confusing with their rules. I got denied twice before finally getting approved. First time was for 'voluntary quit' even though I was laid off. Second time was some wage calculation error. The system is broken.

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That's exactly what I'm worried about. How did you finally get it sorted out?

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Had to provide a ton of documentation and keep calling until I got someone who actually looked at my case properly.

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The base period wage requirement in Washington is pretty specific. You need to earn at least $1,000 in your base period AND earn at least $200 in each of at least 3 quarters during the base period. If you started working in March 2024, you probably don't meet this for a claim filed in November 2024.

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Ugh, that's probably it then. Is there anything I can do?

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You might be able to request an alternate base period if you have recent wages. That uses more recent quarters.

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I had to do the alternate base period thing. It's an option but you have to specifically ask for it.

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The whole system is designed to deny people. They make it so complicated on purpose. I'm convinced they just deny everyone initially hoping people will give up.

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That's a bit extreme but the system is definitely confusing. Most denials are legitimate based on the rules though.

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Maybe, but the rules are stupid. Why not count recent work?

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I work in HR and see this all the time. Common denial reasons include: not enough wages in base period, quit without good cause, fired for misconduct, not available for work, or not actively seeking work. Since you were laid off, it's probably the wage issue.

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That makes sense. I wish someone had explained this when I first applied.

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Washington ESD should have clearer information about eligibility requirements upfront. Too many people apply without understanding the base period concept.

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Don't give up! I was denied initially too but got it overturned on appeal. The key is providing all the documentation they need and being persistent. Also, try calling Washington ESD directly if you can get through.

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I've tried calling but can never get through. Always busy or they hang up.

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Yeah the phone system is terrible. That's why some people use services like Claimyr to get through.

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Check if you qualify for the alternate base period. If your most recent wages aren't in the standard base period, Washington ESD can use a different 4-quarter period that includes more recent work. This might solve your problem.

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How do I request that? Is it automatic or do I have to ask?

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You have to request it specifically. It's not automatic. You can do it as part of your appeal or call to ask about it.

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I'm dealing with the same thing right now. Started a new job in February, laid off in October, denied for insufficient wages. It's so frustrating because I made good money but apparently not in the right time period.

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Exactly! The timing is everything apparently. Are you going to appeal?

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Yeah, I'm filing an appeal and requesting the alternate base period. Hopefully that works.

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Besides wage issues, Washington ESD also denies claims if you're not able and available for work. This includes things like being in school full-time, having transportation issues, or not being able to work your normal schedule. Make sure you're meeting all the ongoing requirements too.

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I'm definitely able and available. No school, have a car, can work any schedule. It's just the wage thing.

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Good, then focus on the wage issue and the alternate base period option.

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Whatever you do, don't miss the appeal deadline. Washington ESD is strict about the 30-day limit. Even if you're not sure about your case, file the appeal to preserve your rights while you figure things out.

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Good point. I'll file the appeal today even if I'm not sure about the details.

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Smart move. You can always provide more information later, but you can't file a late appeal.

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The Washington ESD website has a benefit estimator tool that shows if you qualify based on your wages. You should try that to see what your eligibility looks like with different base period options.

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I'll check that out. Didn't know they had a tool for that.

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It's not perfect but gives you a general idea of where you stand.

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I got denied three times before finally getting approved. First denial was wage-related, second was some documentation issue, third was a mistake on their end. Keep fighting if you know you should qualify.

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Wow, three times? That must have been exhausting.

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It was, but I needed the benefits. Sometimes you have to be persistent with Washington ESD.

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If you do get approved eventually, remember that Washington ESD can backdate benefits to when you first applied. So don't think you're losing money by appealing - you'll get what you're owed.

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That's good to know. I was worried about losing time.

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Nope, they'll pay you from your original claim date if you win the appeal.

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Just remember that even if you get denied, you can still apply for other assistance programs like food stamps or emergency rent help while you sort out the unemployment appeal. Don't let yourself go without help.

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Thanks, I hadn't thought about other programs. I'll look into that.

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Yeah, there are resources available while you're waiting for unemployment to get sorted out.

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I used Claimyr when I was having trouble reaching Washington ESD about my denied claim. They got me through to someone who could actually help explain the denial and what I needed to do to fix it. Saved me weeks of trying to call on my own.

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Several people have mentioned them. I might give it a try if I can't get through myself.

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The video demo on their site shows exactly how it works. Pretty straightforward.

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Update us on how your appeal goes! A lot of people are in similar situations and it would be helpful to know what works.

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Will do! Filing the appeal today and going to request the alternate base period. Fingers crossed.

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Good luck! The system is confusing but a lot of people do get approved on appeal.

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