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How long do I need to work somewhere to get Washington ESD unemployment benefits?

I'm thinking about quitting my current job because the management is horrible, but I want to make sure I can get unemployment if I do. I've been working at this place for about 8 months now. Is that long enough to qualify for Washington ESD benefits? Also does it matter if I quit vs getting fired? I'm making about $18/hour full time so I think I should qualify money-wise but I'm not sure about the time requirements.

You need to have worked in covered employment during your base period to qualify for Washington ESD unemployment. The base period is usually the first 4 of the last 5 completed calendar quarters before you file your claim. 8 months should definitely cover that requirement, but if you quit voluntarily you probably won't qualify unless you have good cause.

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What counts as good cause? The management here is really toxic and creating a hostile work environment.

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Good cause is pretty specific - things like harassment, unsafe working conditions, or significant changes to your job duties or pay. You'd need to document everything and Washington ESD would investigate during adjudication.

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dont quit if u want unemployment!!! i made that mistake last year and got denied. they only give it to you if you get fired or laid off, not if you quit on your own

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That's not entirely accurate. You can get benefits if you quit for good cause, but the bar is pretty high and you need solid documentation.

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well i didnt get it when i quit so maybe my situation wasnt good enough cause

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I had a similar situation last year where I couldn't get through to Washington ESD to ask about my eligibility before making a decision. The phone lines are always busy and it's impossible to get a human. I found this service called Claimyr that helped me actually talk to an agent - you can check it out at claimyr.com. They have a video demo at https://youtu.be/7DieNd3C7zQ that shows how it works. It was really helpful to get my questions answered before I made any job decisions.

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That sounds interesting, how does it work exactly? I really need to talk to someone at Washington ESD about my options.

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It basically gets you through the phone queue so you can actually talk to a real Washington ESD agent instead of waiting on hold forever or getting disconnected.

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For the work requirement, Washington ESD looks at your wages during the base period. You need to have earned wages in at least two quarters of your base period, and your total wages need to be at least 680 times the state minimum wage. At $18/hour for 8 months you should easily meet the monetary requirements.

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That's helpful, thank you! So the main issue is whether quitting would disqualify me?

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Exactly. The work history sounds fine, but quitting without good cause will likely result in a disqualification.

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Why don't you try to get yourself fired instead? Stop doing extra work, show up late, that kind of thing. Then you'll definitely qualify for unemployment.

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That's terrible advice. If you're fired for misconduct you can still be disqualified from benefits. Washington ESD investigates the circumstances of your separation.

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oh i didnt know that, i thought fired = automatic unemployment

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Yeah misconduct disqualifications are a thing. You can't just sabotage yourself and expect benefits.

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If you're dealing with a toxic work environment, start documenting everything NOW. Keep records of incidents, emails, witness statements if possible. If you do decide to quit for good cause, you'll need proof during the adjudication process. Washington ESD takes these claims seriously but they need evidence.

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Good point. I should probably start keeping a log of incidents. The verbal abuse from my supervisor is getting really bad.

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Definitely document that. Verbal abuse and harassment can qualify as good cause, but you need a paper trail.

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i was in a similar situation and ended up staying at my horrible job for 2 more years because i was scared about unemployment. looking back i wish i had just quit and dealt with the consequences

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What made you finally leave? Did you end up getting unemployment when you did?

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they eventually laid me off during covid so i got benefits then. but those 2 years were miserable and probably damaged my mental health

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One more thing to consider - even if you don't qualify for regular unemployment, you might be able to get benefits later if your work situation deteriorates further. Sometimes it's worth consulting with an employment lawyer about your options, especially if there's genuine harassment or unsafe conditions.

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I hadn't thought about talking to a lawyer. That might be worth looking into.

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many employment lawyers will do free consultations for these kinds of situations

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The washington esd website has a tool where you can estimate your benefits but it doesnt tell you about the quitting issue. i used claimyr to actually talk to someone about my specific situation when i was considering leaving my job

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Was the agent helpful? I'm really nervous about making the wrong decision here.

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yeah they were able to explain exactly what i needed to document and what would qualify as good cause for my situation

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Just want to point out that even if you qualify for unemployment, the weekly benefit amount is only about 60-70% of your regular wages. At $18/hour you'd probably get around $400-500 per week before taxes. Make sure you can survive on that before you make any decisions.

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That's a good point. I should calculate exactly what I'd get and see if I can make ends meet.

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There's a benefit calculator on the Washington ESD website that can give you an estimate based on your wages.

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whatever you decide make sure you file your claim right away if you do end up leaving. theres a waiting period and delays are common with adjudication when you quit voluntarily

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How long does adjudication usually take for quit cases?

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can be anywhere from 2-8 weeks depending on how complex your case is and how backed up they are

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Have you considered talking to HR about the management issues first? Sometimes they can resolve problems or transfer you to a different department. Might be worth trying before you quit.

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HR at my company is pretty useless unfortunately. They're friends with the managers and don't take complaints seriously.

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That sucks. In that case documenting everything becomes even more important if you do decide to quit.

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The system is so messed up. You can work somewhere for years and pay into unemployment insurance but if you quit because your boss is abusive they make you prove it was their fault. Meanwhile the employer who created the toxic situation gets off free.

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I agree it's frustrating but there has to be some standard otherwise everyone would just quit and claim benefits.

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true but the burden of proof is pretty high and a lot of legitimate cases get denied

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Just wanted to follow up on the Claimyr thing since a few people mentioned it - I used it again recently when I had questions about my weekly claims and it really saved me a lot of time. The Washington ESD agents are actually pretty knowledgeable when you can get through to them, it's just the getting through part that's impossible without help.

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I'm definitely going to check that out. I need to understand my options before I make any decisions about quitting.

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how much does it cost to use claimyr?

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I'd rather not get into specifics but it was definitely worth it to get my questions answered properly instead of guessing.

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Another thing to think about is job searching while you're still employed vs unemployed. It's usually easier to find a new job when you already have one, even if it sucks.

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That's true, but the stress from this job is making it hard to focus on job searching. I'm exhausted when I get home.

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I get that. Maybe try to hang in there while you document everything and look for something better?

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if u do quit make sure u understand the job search requirements for unemployment. u have to apply to a certain number of jobs each week and keep a log

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What are the current requirements for job search activities?

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You need to complete at least 3 job search activities per week and keep detailed records. This includes applying for jobs, networking, attending job fairs, etc.

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I was in almost the exact same situation - toxic manager, 8 months on the job, considering quitting. I ended up using Claimyr to talk to Washington ESD about my options before making the decision. Turned out I didn't have enough documentation for a good cause quit so I started keeping detailed records and eventually found a new job before I had to quit. Sometimes just knowing your options helps you make better decisions.

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That's really helpful to know. I think I need to talk to Washington ESD directly about my specific situation before doing anything drastic.

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Exactly. Every situation is different and they can give you guidance on what kind of evidence you'd need if you did decide to quit for good cause.

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Bottom line - 8 months is plenty of work history for the monetary requirements, but quitting voluntarily is risky unless you have rock solid documentation of good cause. Talk to Washington ESD directly about your specific situation before making any decisions.

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Thanks everyone for all the advice. I'm going to start documenting everything and try to get through to Washington ESD to discuss my options before I make any big decisions.

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Good plan. Better to be informed than sorry later.

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