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How long do you have to work somewhere to collect unemployment in Washington?

I'm thinking about quitting my current job because the work environment is toxic, but I'm worried about whether I'll qualify for unemployment benefits. I've been at this place for about 8 months now, working full-time. Before that I had a different job for like 6 months but got laid off from there. Does anyone know how long you have to work at a job to be eligible for Washington ESD unemployment? I've never filed before and I'm really confused about the requirements.

You need to meet Washington's base period earnings requirements, not just time worked. The base period is typically the first 4 of the last 5 completed calendar quarters before you file. You need at least $5,265 in total wages during your base period AND at least $1,755 in your highest earning quarter.

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Oh wow, so it's about earnings not just how long you worked? That's confusing. What if my previous job in another state counts toward those earnings?

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Yes, out-of-state wages can count! Washington ESD can combine wages from other states if needed. You'll need to provide wage records from your previous employer.

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You don't qualify based on how long you worked at one specific job - it's about your total earnings over what Washington ESD calls the 'base period.' This is usually the first 4 of the last 5 completed calendar quarters before you file. You need to have earned at least $1,019 in your highest-earning quarter AND have total base period earnings of at least 1.5 times your highest quarter earnings.

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That sounds really complicated. So if I worked 8 months at my current job and 6 months at my previous job, that should be enough earnings right?

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It depends on your actual earnings amounts, not just the time worked. You'll need to add up what you made in each quarter to see if you meet the minimum requirements.

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i think its like 600 hours or something but not sure

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That's not quite right. Washington doesn't use hours - it's all about wages earned during the base period quarters.

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oh ok thanks for correcting me

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Wait, you said you're thinking about quitting? That's going to be a problem for unemployment. Washington ESD usually won't approve benefits if you quit voluntarily unless you can prove it was for 'good cause' - like unsafe working conditions, harassment, or major changes to your job that weren't your fault.

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The work environment really is terrible though. My supervisor is constantly yelling at people and creating a hostile workplace. Would that count as good cause?

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You'd need to document everything and probably try to resolve it through HR first. Washington ESD is pretty strict about voluntary quits.

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Before you do anything drastic, make sure you understand that quitting makes everything way harder. Even if you have enough work history, proving 'good cause' for quitting is really difficult. Have you looked into whether you could get fired instead? I know that sounds weird but sometimes it's better for unemployment purposes.

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I hadn't thought about that angle. How would I even go about that without it looking obvious?

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I'm not saying to do anything unethical, but sometimes just standing up for yourself when a supervisor is being unreasonable can lead to termination, which would qualify you for benefits.

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This is terrible advice. Don't try to get yourself fired - that could backfire badly.

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The key thing to understand is that Washington uses monetary eligibility, not time-based. If you earned enough wages in your base period (including from other states), you can qualify even with just a few weeks of work. But if you quit voluntarily or get fired for misconduct, you'll be disqualified regardless of your wages.

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What counts as misconduct? If they just say I'm not a good fit during probation, would that disqualify me?

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Being let go for not being a good fit usually isn't misconduct. Misconduct is more like theft, harassment, or repeatedly violating company policies after warnings.

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the base period thing is confusing but basically if you worked full time for 14 months total you should have enough earnings unless you were making really low wages. I think minimum wage in washington is like $16.28 now? so working full time you'd definitely hit the earnings requirements

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That's generally correct, but the timing of when you earned the money matters too. If most of your recent earnings fall outside the base period, you might not qualify even with enough total earnings.

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oh yeah good point about the quarters and timing. washington esd uses weird calendar quarters not when you actually worked

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This whole system is so confusing!! Why can't they just make it simple like 'work 3 months, get benefits' or something? I spent hours trying to figure out my base period when I got laid off.

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I know it seems complicated, but the wage-based system actually protects workers better than time-based requirements. Someone working part-time for a year might not qualify under a time system but could qualify under the wage system.

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I guess that makes sense when you explain it like that

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I'm dealing with something similar right now. Been trying to get through to Washington ESD for weeks to ask about my eligibility after a job change. Finally got connected through that Claimyr service someone mentioned earlier and the agent was super helpful. They explained the base period calculation and even looked up my earnings history to confirm I'd qualify. Way better than trying to figure it out from the website.

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That's exactly what I need - someone to actually look at my specific situation instead of trying to decode all these rules myself.

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Yeah, the Washington ESD website has all the info but it's pretty confusing to apply to your own situation. Having someone walk through it made a huge difference.

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Just want to add that even if you qualify based on earnings, quitting without good cause means you'll be disqualified for benefits. And 'toxic work environment' is really hard to prove unless you have documented harassment or safety violations. I learned this the hard way.

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What kind of documentation would I need? I don't have anything formal filed with HR yet.

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Email trails, witness statements, any written warnings or disciplinary actions against you that seem retaliatory. But honestly, the bar is pretty high for proving good cause.

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Just to add - even if you don't meet the regular base period requirements, Washington has an alternate base period that uses the most recent 4 quarters. Sometimes that can help if your recent wages are higher.

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How do I know which base period they'll use when I apply?

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Washington ESD automatically checks both and uses whichever one qualifies you or gives you higher benefits.

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been through this whole mess before and the phone system is IMPOSSIBLE. you call and get hung up on constantly. took me 3 weeks just to talk to someone about my eligibility

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might have to try that if i ever need to deal with them again

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The Washington ESD adjudication process for voluntary quits can take forever too. Even if you think you have good cause, they might put your claim on hold for weeks while they investigate. Meanwhile you're not getting any benefits.

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Ugh, that's what I was afraid of. So I could quit, file for unemployment, and then wait weeks or months to find out if I actually qualify?

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Exactly. And if they deny your claim, you can appeal but that takes even longer. It's a really risky situation financially.

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Also remember that if you do qualify and file a claim, you'll need to do your weekly claims and job search activities. The work search requirement is 3 contacts per week minimum.

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Good to know. Do they verify the job searches or just trust that you're doing them?

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They can audit your job search log at any time, so definitely keep detailed records of your applications and contacts.

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Wait so if I made like $8000 last quarter at my job, would that be enough to qualify? I'm getting confused by all these numbers.

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If you made $8000 in your highest quarter and have at least $5,265 total in your base period, then yes you'd meet the monetary requirements. But they also look at the reason you're no longer working.

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ok that helps, thanks

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Look, I get that your work situation sucks, but you need to be really strategic here. Start documenting everything NOW - dates, times, what was said, who witnessed it. Try to resolve it through proper channels first. That gives you the best shot at proving good cause if you do end up quitting.

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You're right, I should start keeping records. I just hate the idea of staying in this toxic place any longer than necessary.

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I totally understand, but a few weeks of documentation could save you months of financial stress later. Plus it might actually lead to improvements in your workplace.

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Has anyone mentioned that you can also use the alternate base period if the regular one doesn't work? It's the last 4 completed quarters instead of the first 4 of the last 5. Sometimes that helps if your recent earnings are higher.

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Good point! The alternate base period can be really helpful for people who had recent job changes or wage increases.

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How do I know which base period would be better for me? This is getting really complicated.

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THE WHOLE SYSTEM IS RIDICULOUS. I've been trying to get answers about my own claim for MONTHS and Washington ESD just gives you the runaround. You call, wait for hours, get disconnected. You email, no response. The website is useless for anything specific.

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I feel your frustration but getting angry doesn't help. There are ways to get through to them if you're persistent.

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Easy for you to say when you're not living on savings while waiting for answers about your benefits

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The whole base period thing tripped me up too when I first applied. I thought it was just about my current job but they look at a whole year's worth of wages from all your jobs.

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So even short-term jobs count toward the total?

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Yep, as long as unemployment taxes were taken out of your paychecks, those wages count.

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For what it's worth, I used Claimyr a few months ago when I was in adjudication hell and it was worth every penny. Got connected to an agent who explained exactly what was happening with my claim and what I needed to do. Sometimes you just need to talk to a real person instead of trying to navigate the system alone.

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At this point I'm willing to try anything. The stress of not knowing if I'll qualify is almost as bad as the toxic job.

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That's exactly how I felt. The peace of mind from getting clear answers was huge.

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just to be clear - you need to have worked in washington state for this to count toward washington unemployment right? or does out of state work count too?

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Washington ESD only counts wages earned in Washington state for determining eligibility. If you worked in other states, you'd need to file in those states or potentially file an interstate claim.

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ok good to know, all my work has been in washington so that shouldn't be an issue

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I quit my job last year for what I thought was good cause (harassment from my supervisor) and Washington ESD denied my claim. Even though I had some documentation, they said I didn't try hard enough to resolve it internally first. Now I'm dealing with an appeal that's been going on for months.

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Oh god, that's exactly what I'm worried about. What did they say you should have done differently?

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They wanted me to have filed formal complaints with HR and given my employer a chance to fix the situation. Apparently just talking to my supervisor wasn't enough.

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I tried to apply online but got confused about which quarters to include. The Washington ESD website isn't very clear about how to calculate your base period.

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The base period is automatically calculated when you file your claim. You don't need to figure it out yourself - just report all your employers from the past 18 months.

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Oh that's a relief! I was trying to do math with calendar quarters and getting nowhere.

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What if you're still technically employed but your hours got cut to almost nothing? Do you still need to meet the same wage requirements?

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You might qualify for partial unemployment benefits if your hours were reduced. The wage requirements are the same, but you can collect partial benefits while still working reduced hours.

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That's good to know. My hours got cut from 40 to 15 per week so I'm struggling.

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My sister went through this last year and said the hardest part was actually getting someone at Washington ESD on the phone to ask questions. She eventually found some service that calls for you.

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Probably Claimyr - that's what I used. Really makes a difference when you need to actually talk to someone instead of just reading confusing website info.

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Yeah that sounds right. She said it was a lifesaver.

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Don't forget that if you get benefits, you'll have to pay taxes on them later. They're considered taxable income.

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Ugh, I didn't think about that. Can you have taxes taken out automatically?

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Yes, you can elect to have 10% federal tax withheld when you file your weekly claims.

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the system is so broken. took forever to get approved and then they said i owed money back because of some error on their end. still fighting it

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Overpayment notices can often be appealed if there was an error on Washington ESD's part. You have 30 days from the notice date to file an appeal.

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yeah im working on that but its such a hassle

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Just want to point out that the $5,265 and $1,755 amounts get adjusted annually, so make sure you're looking at current year requirements if you're researching this.

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Good point. Where do you find the current year amounts?

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On the Washington ESD website under benefit information. They usually update it in January.

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I was worried about this exact thing when I started my job. Turned out I didn't need to worry because my employer was great, but it's smart to know your rights just in case.

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That's my hope too. I'm just trying to be prepared in case things don't work out.

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Better to know and not need it than need it and not know!

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One more thing - if you do end up filing a claim, don't wait. File as soon as you become unemployed because there's a one-week waiting period before benefits start, and you can't backdate the claim.

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Thanks for all the helpful info everyone. I feel much more prepared now.

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Good luck with the new job! Hopefully you won't need any of this information.

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The earnings requirements aren't that hard to meet if you've been working full time. The bigger issue is the voluntary quit thing. Maybe look into whether you could take a leave of absence instead? That might buy you time to figure out your options without losing eligibility.

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I don't think my company offers leave for mental health or stress-related issues. It's a pretty small company without great benefits.

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Even unpaid leave might be better than quitting outright if it keeps your employment status technically active while you job hunt.

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Quick question - does anyone know if you can apply for unemployment while you're still employed? Like if I want to check my eligibility before actually quitting?

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You can't file an actual claim while employed, but you can estimate your eligibility using the benefit calculator on the Washington ESD website or by calling them.

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The benefit calculator is pretty basic though - it doesn't tell you about the voluntary quit issues.

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This whole thread is making me anxious about my own job situation. I've been at my current place for 5 months but before that I was unemployed for like 3 months. Does the gap in employment affect eligibility?

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Gaps in employment don't disqualify you as long as you have enough earnings in your base period. It's all about the total wages, not continuous employment.

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That's a relief. I was worried the unemployment gap would count against me somehow.

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My advice: don't quit unless you absolutely have to. Start job hunting while you're still employed. If you find something else, you can leave without worrying about unemployment benefits. If you can't find anything and the job is truly unbearable, at least you'll have documentation and a paper trail showing you tried other options first.

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You're probably right. I'm just so miserable at work that it's hard to think clearly about the long-term consequences.

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I totally get it. Bad jobs can really mess with your mental health. But being unemployed with no benefits is usually worse financially.

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One more thing to consider - even if you qualify for unemployment, the benefit amount might be less than you expect. It's typically about 50% of your average weekly wage, up to a maximum. Make sure you can survive on that amount before you make any big decisions.

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Good point. I should probably calculate what the actual benefit would be and see if I can live on that for a few months while job hunting.

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Exactly. And remember you'll need to actively job search and report your activities to keep receiving benefits. It's not just free money - there are ongoing requirements.

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