How does paying unemployment affect the employer in Washington ESD system?
I'm curious about something - when someone gets approved for unemployment benefits through Washington ESD, how exactly does that impact their former employer? Do employers pay directly into the system or is it more complicated than that? My last company laid off about 15 people including me and I'm wondering if our unemployment claims are going to cost them somehow. I know they pay some kind of unemployment tax but not sure how it all connects when claims get approved.
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Nadia Zaldivar
Employers in Washington pay unemployment insurance taxes to fund the system. It's based on their payroll and their experience rating - basically how many former employees have filed successful claims against them.
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Rajan Walker
•So if more people from my company file claims, their tax rate could go up next year?
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Nadia Zaldivar
•Exactly. Companies with higher claim rates pay higher UI tax rates. It's designed to encourage employers to avoid layoffs when possible.
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Lukas Fitzgerald
yeah my old boss told me that every time someone files unemployment it raises their costs somehow. made me feel guilty about filing but hey, i paid into the system too through my paychecks
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Ev Luca
•Don't feel guilty! You earned those benefits by working and paying taxes. That's literally what unemployment insurance is for.
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Rajan Walker
•That's what I figured too. We all contributed to this system while we were working.
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Avery Davis
The Washington ESD system works on an experience rating basis. Each employer gets assigned a tax rate based on their history of layoffs and unemployment claims. New employers start at a standard rate, then it adjusts up or down based on claims filed against them over time.
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Rajan Walker
•How long does it take for their rate to change? Is it immediate or does Washington ESD review it annually?
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Avery Davis
•Washington ESD reviews employer tax rates annually. So claims filed this year would affect their rate for next year's payroll taxes.
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Collins Angel
•This is why some employers fight unemployment claims even when the layoff was legitimate. Higher rates mean more costs for them.
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Marcelle Drum
Actually had trouble getting through to Washington ESD to ask about this exact thing for my small business. Spent hours on hold trying to understand how the rating system works. Finally used Claimyr (claimyr.com) to get connected to an actual agent who explained the whole experience rating calculation. There's even a video demo at https://youtu.be/7DieNd3C7zQ that shows how their callback system works. Way better than sitting on hold forever.
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Rajan Walker
•Never heard of that service. Does it actually work for getting through to Washington ESD?
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Marcelle Drum
•Yeah, they handle the calling and waiting for you, then connect you when an agent picks up. Saved me probably 3-4 hours of hold time.
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Tate Jensen
EMPLOYERS HATE UNEMPLOYMENT CLAIMS!! my former company actually called me and asked if I really needed to file because it would hurt their rating. Like seriously?? They laid ME off!
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Nadia Zaldivar
•That's inappropriate of them to ask. You have every right to file for benefits you've earned through your work history.
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Ev Luca
•Some employers definitely get aggressive about this stuff. Stand your ground - you earned those benefits.
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Lukas Fitzgerald
wait so does this mean if i file for unemployment my old company has to pay for it directly?
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Avery Davis
•Not directly. They pay unemployment taxes to Washington ESD based on their payroll. Washington ESD then pays your benefits from that fund.
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Lukas Fitzgerald
•ok that makes more sense. so its not like they write a check for my specific claim
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Rajan Walker
This is really helpful info. I was worried about filing because I liked my manager and didn't want to hurt the company financially. But sounds like this is just how the system works.
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Nadia Zaldivar
•That's very considerate of you, but remember - unemployment insurance exists for exactly this situation. You shouldn't feel bad about using it.
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Collins Angel
•Plus if they had to lay people off, they probably already factored in the potential UI tax increases into their planning.
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Ev Luca
The experience rating system is actually pretty fair when you think about it. Companies that rarely lay people off get lower rates, while companies that constantly cycle through employees pay more.
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Rajan Walker
•Makes sense as an incentive system. Rewards companies that try to keep their workforce stable.
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Adaline Wong
i think there are also different categories of employers? like some pay different rates based on their industry or something
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Avery Davis
•Yes, Washington ESD uses industry classifications as part of the rate calculation. Construction companies typically pay higher rates than office-based businesses, for example.
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Adaline Wong
•ah ok that makes sense since some industries have more seasonal layoffs
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Collins Angel
One thing to keep in mind - employers can contest unemployment claims if they think the person wasn't eligible. Like if someone quit without good cause or was fired for misconduct.
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Rajan Walker
•In my case it was clearly a layoff due to budget cuts, so hopefully they won't contest it.
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Collins Angel
•Layoffs are usually pretty straightforward. It's the quit/firing situations that get messy.
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Tate Jensen
My friend's company actually had their UI tax rate go from like 1.2% to 3.8% after they had a bunch of layoffs during covid. Cost them thousands extra per year.
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Nadia Zaldivar
•That's a significant jump, but during COVID there were special provisions that were supposed to prevent pandemic-related layoffs from affecting experience ratings as much.
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Tate Jensen
•Yeah I think they got some relief but not complete protection from the rate increases.
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Gabriel Ruiz
Do employers get notified when their former employees file for unemployment?
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Avery Davis
•Yes, Washington ESD sends employers a notice when a claim is filed against their account. They have a chance to provide information about the separation.
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Gabriel Ruiz
•Got it. So they know about it but can't stop legitimate claims.
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Marcelle Drum
For anyone trying to get detailed info about employer UI taxes, I'd seriously recommend that Claimyr service I mentioned earlier. The Washington ESD phone system is brutal for getting through to someone who can explain the complex stuff.
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Misterclamation Skyblue
•How much does something like that cost though?
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Marcelle Drum
•Worth checking out their site - focus should be on the time savings rather than cost. When you need answers from Washington ESD, it's invaluable.
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Lukas Fitzgerald
this whole thread has been super educational. never really understood how the employer side worked before
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Rajan Walker
•Same here! Makes me feel better about filing my claim knowing it's not directly coming out of my old company's pocket.
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Peyton Clarke
Just to add - the UI tax rates in Washington can range from like 0.3% to over 6% depending on the employer's experience rating. It's a pretty wide range.
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Ev Luca
•Wow, 6% is a lot. That would definitely make employers think twice about layoffs.
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Peyton Clarke
•That's for employers with really high claim rates. Most stable companies pay much lower rates.
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Collins Angel
The system also has some protections for employers dealing with situations beyond their control, like natural disasters or major economic downturns.
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Rajan Walker
•That seems fair. Companies shouldn't be penalized for things completely out of their control.
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Vince Eh
worked in HR for years and dealt with this stuff constantly. employers definitely track their UI costs closely and some will do everything possible to avoid layoffs partly because of the tax implications
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Avery Davis
•Which is exactly how the system is designed to work - creating financial incentives for employment stability.
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Vince Eh
•exactly. though sometimes layoffs are unavoidable and the UI system is there as a safety net for workers
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Sophia Gabriel
Thanks for all this info everyone. Definitely helps me understand the bigger picture of how unemployment benefits work in Washington.
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Rajan Walker
•Agreed! This has been really informative. Makes the whole system make more sense.
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Tobias Lancaster
One last thing - if you're ever dealing with Washington ESD as an employer or employee and need to get through their phone system, that Claimyr service someone mentioned really does work. Used it myself when I had questions about a contested claim.
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Rajan Walker
•Good to know there are options for actually reaching someone at Washington ESD when needed.
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Tobias Lancaster
•Yeah the regular phone system is pretty much impossible during busy periods. Having a service handle the waiting makes a huge difference.
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Ev Luca
Bottom line - don't feel guilty about filing for unemployment if you're eligible. It's an insurance system that both you and your employer paid into.
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Rajan Walker
•That's exactly what I needed to hear. Filing my claim tomorrow. Thanks everyone!
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