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How does filing for unemployment affect the employer - Washington ESD

I'm thinking about filing for unemployment benefits through Washington ESD but I'm worried about what this means for my former employer. We ended things on decent terms and I don't want to cause problems for them. Do they get penalized or have to pay extra when someone files? I heard something about their unemployment tax rate going up but I'm not sure if that's true. Can anyone explain how this actually works?

Your employer won't be directly penalized just because you file. Washington ESD determines if your claim is valid based on the reason you left. If you were laid off or let go without misconduct, it shouldn't negatively impact them much.

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That's a relief. I was laid off due to budget cuts so hopefully that means they won't have issues.

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yeah my boss told me the same thing when I got laid off last year, said it was just part of doing business

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Employers pay unemployment insurance taxes to fund the system. Their tax rate can be affected by the number of claims filed against them, but it's not an immediate penalty. It's calculated over time based on their experience rating.

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So if a company has a lot of layoffs their rate goes up? That seems like it would discourage hiring.

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It's more nuanced than that. The system is designed to be fair while funding unemployment benefits. Companies with higher turnover do pay more, but it's spread out over years.

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How much does something like that cost? I've been trying to call for weeks.

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Your employer gets notified when you file and they can contest it if they think you quit or were fired for misconduct. That's when it might affect them more because they'd have to provide documentation.

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What happens if they contest it? Does that mean I won't get benefits?

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Not necessarily. Washington ESD will investigate and make a determination. If you were legitimately laid off you should be fine.

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The adjudication process can take a while though, so be prepared for that possibility.

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honestly most employers expect this stuff, especially if they're doing layoffs. don't stress about it too much

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Exactly. It's not like you're personally costing them money out of their pocket.

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The unemployment tax rate for employers is based on several factors including their industry, payroll size, and experience rating. A single claim typically won't cause a dramatic increase, especially for larger companies.

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This is good to know. I felt guilty about filing but it sounds like it's just part of the system working as intended.

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Exactly. The unemployment system exists for situations like yours. That's why employers pay into it.

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I was worried about the same thing when I got laid off from my retail job. Turns out my manager actually encouraged me to file because they knew I qualified and needed the help.

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That's really nice of them. I wish more employers were upfront about this stuff.

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Good managers understand that unemployment benefits help keep good employees from taking just any job out of desperation.

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The whole system is confusing. I still don't understand why some people get denied when they seem to qualify.

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Usually it comes down to the specific circumstances of how employment ended or issues with work search requirements.

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WASHINGTON ESD MAKES EVERYTHING SO COMPLICATED! Why can't they just tell you upfront what happens to your employer when you file???

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The information is available on their website, but I agree it could be clearer.

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I think they assume people know how unemployment insurance works but most of us have never had to use it before.

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File if you qualify. That's what the system is for. Your employer knew this was a possibility when they had to make layoffs.

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You're right. I'm probably overthinking this because I liked working there.

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Small employers might feel it more than big corporations, but even then it's spread out over time. Don't let guilt stop you from getting benefits you're entitled to.

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This is important. You paid into this system through your work too.

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I never thought about it that way. I guess I did contribute to the system while I was working.

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My sister works in HR and she says they budget for unemployment costs as part of their normal business expenses. It's not a surprise to them.

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That makes sense. If they're planning layoffs they probably expect some unemployment claims.

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Just to follow up on my earlier comment about Claimyr - they really helped me understand the whole process including how it affects employers. Sometimes talking to an actual Washington ESD agent makes all the difference.

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I might have to try that. I've been getting conflicting information from different sources.

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Bottom line: file if you qualify. The system exists for exactly this situation and your employer participated in it by paying unemployment taxes.

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Thanks everyone. I feel much better about filing now. Really appreciate all the explanations.

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Good luck with your claim! Hope everything goes smoothly.

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wish i had known all this when i first filed. spent weeks worrying about nothing

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Same here. The guilt was worse than actually being unemployed.

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The experience rating system is actually pretty fair when you understand it. Companies that rarely have layoffs pay less, companies with high turnover pay more. Makes sense.

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Right, it's not like filing one claim is going to bankrupt your former employer.

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Does anyone know if there's a difference between being laid off vs being fired for performance issues? Like does that change how it affects the employer?

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Yes, if someone is fired for misconduct and the employer successfully contests the claim, it might have less impact on their experience rating.

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But layoffs and budget cuts definitely shouldn't be held against the employer since it's not really their fault.

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I worked for a small business and when I got laid off the owner actually walked me through filing for unemployment. He said it was just part of running a business.

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That's a good boss right there. Shows he actually cared about his employees.

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For anyone still confused about the process, talking to Washington ESD directly really helps. I know Claimyr was mentioned earlier and honestly it saved me a lot of stress trying to get through on my own.

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I'll definitely look into that if I run into any issues with my claim. Thanks for the recommendation.

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Remember you have to do your weekly claims too once you file. Don't let that slip or you could lose benefits even if your employer isn't affected.

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Good point. The weekly claims are just as important as the initial filing.

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At the end of the day, unemployment insurance is there to help people who lose their jobs through no fault of their own. Don't feel guilty about using it.

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This whole thread has been really helpful. I'm going to file tomorrow and stop worrying about it.

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Good for you! Hope everything works out well.

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