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How do I file for unemployment if I am self-employed - Washington ESD questions

I've been running my own consulting business for the past 2 years but work has completely dried up. I know self-employed people can sometimes get unemployment but I'm really confused about how this works with Washington ESD. Do I need to have paid into the system somehow? I never paid unemployment taxes on myself. Has anyone been through this process? I'm worried I don't qualify for anything since I was technically my own boss.

Self-employed workers in Washington can qualify for regular unemployment benefits, but there are specific requirements. You need to have had covered employment (W-2 wages) during your base period, which is typically the first 4 of the last 5 completed quarters before you file. The self-employment income alone won't count toward eligibility.

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So if I only had 1099 income for the past 2 years, I probably don't qualify? That's what I was afraid of.

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Not necessarily - if you had W-2 wages within that base period timeframe, you might still qualify. You'd need to check your earnings history on your Washington ESD account.

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Wait, I thought there was some program for self-employed people during COVID? Is that still around?

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The Pandemic Unemployment Assistance (PUA) program ended in September 2021. That was specifically for self-employed workers who didn't qualify for regular UI. Now we're back to the standard eligibility requirements.

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Oh that sucks, I was hoping there was still something for freelancers and contractors.

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You should definitely apply anyway and let Washington ESD determine your eligibility. I had mixed W-2 and 1099 income and was surprised that I qualified. The worst they can do is say no, but you might have wages you forgot about. I used Claimyr to get through to someone at Washington ESD to ask questions about my specific situation - they have a service at claimyr.com that helps you actually reach an agent. There's a demo video at https://youtu.be/7DieNd3C7zQ that shows how it works.

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I've never heard of Claimyr before. How does that work exactly? I've been dreading trying to call Washington ESD because I know how hard it is to get through.

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It basically calls Washington ESD for you and waits on hold, then connects you when an agent picks up. Saved me hours of redialing and listening to busy signals.

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That sounds too good to be true. How much does something like that cost?

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I'm in a similar boat - been freelancing for 3 years but had a part-time W-2 job until about 8 months ago. Should I mention the freelance work when I apply or just focus on the W-2 wages?

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You should report all your work activity honestly. The self-employment won't help your eligibility but you need to be upfront about it. When you do your weekly claims, you'll need to report any self-employment income you earn while receiving benefits.

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Good point, I don't want to mess anything up by not being completely honest from the start.

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This is so frustrating! I've been paying taxes on my business income for years but can't get unemployment when I need it. The system is completely backwards.

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I know right? We pay into social security and medicare but not unemployment. It's like we're second-class workers or something.

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Actually, there are some states that allow self-employed workers to opt into unemployment coverage by paying into the system voluntarily. Washington doesn't have that option yet though.

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Have you looked into other assistance programs? Even if you don't qualify for regular unemployment, there might be other benefits available.

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Like what? I'm pretty desperate at this point and willing to look into anything.

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SNAP benefits, rental assistance, utility assistance programs. Also check with your local workforce development office - they sometimes have programs specifically for entrepreneurs and self-employed workers.

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I went through this exact situation last year. Had been self-employed for 18 months but had W-2 wages before that. Washington ESD approved my claim but the weekly benefit amount was pretty low since it was based on older wages. Still better than nothing though!

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How long did it take for them to process your application? I'm worried about the adjudication process taking forever.

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Mine took about 3 weeks total. They had to verify my employment history and self-employment status. Be prepared to provide documentation of your business income and expenses.

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What kind of documentation did they ask for? I have my tax returns but not sure what else they'd want to see.

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The key thing is your base period wages. Log into your Washington ESD account and check your wage history first. If you see covered wages listed, you might qualify. If it's all zeros, then unfortunately regular UI probably isn't an option.

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I'll check that right now. Fingers crossed I have some W-2 wages in there from before I went full-time freelance.

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Even if you don't see wages initially, sometimes employers report them late. Worth applying anyway and letting them do the full investigation.

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Don't forget about the job search requirements if you do qualify. You'll need to be actively looking for work and document your job search activities. Being self-employed doesn't exempt you from this.

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Good point. I assume I can look for both traditional jobs and freelance opportunities?

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Yes, but you need to be looking for work that would provide wages, not just more freelance clients. The job search has to demonstrate you're available for traditional employment.

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I had to use Claimyr twice when I was dealing with my self-employment eligibility questions. The first time was to check on my application status, and the second time was when they needed additional documentation. Both times I got through to someone who could actually help me instead of just getting hung up on or transferred around.

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Ok I'm convinced this Claimyr thing might be worth looking into. The regular Washington ESD phone system is absolutely terrible.

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Same here, spent literally 6 hours one day trying to get through to ask about my adjudication status. Finally gave up and just waited it out.

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Make sure you apply as soon as possible if you think you might qualify. There's a waiting period before benefits start, and you can't get benefits for weeks before you filed your claim.

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Yeah I've been putting it off because I wasn't sure about eligibility, but you're right - I should just apply and find out.

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Exactly! The application process itself will tell you if you qualify or not. No point in waiting and potentially missing out on weeks of benefits.

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One thing to keep in mind - if you do qualify and start receiving benefits, any income from freelance work has to be reported on your weekly claims. They'll deduct it from your benefits, but you need to be honest about it.

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How does that work exactly? If I make $200 from a small project, do they deduct the full $200 from my weekly benefit?

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It depends on how much you make. There's usually a small earnings disregard, but anything over that gets deducted dollar for dollar. Check the Washington ESD website for the current rules.

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I think it's like the first $5 plus 25% of the rest that you can keep without it affecting your benefits, but don't quote me on that. The rules change sometimes.

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Just want to add that even if you don't qualify for regular unemployment, you should still register with WorkSource Washington. They have resources for entrepreneurs and self-employed workers, including training programs and business counseling services.

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That's a good suggestion. I could probably use some help pivoting my business or finding new client sources.

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WorkSource has been really helpful for me in the past. They also sometimes have information about grant programs for small businesses that are struggling.

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Update us on how it goes! I'm in a similar situation and curious to hear what happens with your application.

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Will do! I'm going to check my wage history tonight and then file my application this weekend. Wish me luck!

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Good luck! Hope it works out for you. This whole self-employment unemployment thing is way more complicated than it should be.

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I've been through something similar - was self-employed for about 18 months and worried I wouldn't qualify. The most important thing is checking your base period wages in your ESD account first. I was surprised to find I had enough W-2 wages from my previous job to qualify, even though it felt like forever ago. The benefit amount was lower than I hoped since it was based on older wages, but it definitely helped bridge the gap while I looked for new work. Also, be prepared for the adjudication process to take a few weeks - they'll want to verify your work history and may ask for tax documents showing your self-employment income. Don't let the complexity discourage you from applying though!

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Thanks for sharing your experience! This gives me hope. I'm definitely going to check my wage history tonight - I had a part-time W-2 job while building my consulting business initially, so maybe those wages are enough. Did they ask for specific tax documents during the adjudication, or just general proof of your self-employment? I want to have everything ready to avoid delays.

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They asked for my Schedule C from my tax returns to verify the self-employment income and dates, plus a few bank statements showing business transactions. Having everything organized beforehand definitely speeds up the process. The key thing they're looking for is proof that you weren't just claiming to be unemployed while still actively running your business. Since you had legitimate W-2 wages mixed in, you should be in good shape! Just make sure to be completely transparent about your work timeline when you apply.

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I'm in almost the exact same situation - been self-employed for about 2.5 years and work has completely dried up. Reading through all these responses has been really helpful, especially learning about checking the base period wages first. I had no idea that was even a thing! I worked part-time at a marketing agency while getting my freelance business off the ground, so hopefully those wages are still in my base period. The Claimyr service sounds interesting too - I've been dreading trying to call Washington ESD because everyone says it's impossible to get through. Has anyone here actually used it recently? I'm willing to pay a reasonable fee if it means I can actually talk to a real person about my situation instead of spending days redialing busy signals.

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I used Claimyr about 3 months ago when I was dealing with a similar self-employment eligibility question. It actually worked really well - took about 45 minutes for them to get me connected to an agent, which was way better than the hours I'd already wasted trying to call myself. The cost was around $20 I think, which seemed totally worth it to avoid the frustration. The agent I spoke with was able to look at my specific wage history and give me a clear answer about whether I qualified. Definitely recommend checking your base period wages first though - if you see those marketing agency wages in there, you're probably in good shape! The whole process was much less scary once I actually talked to someone who knew what they were doing.

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