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Carmen Flores

Washington ESD unemployment benefits for self-employed workers - can you claim unemployment if you are self employed?

I've been running my own consulting business for the past 2 years but work has completely dried up. My income went from about $4,500/month to basically nothing in the last 3 months. I know traditionally self-employed people couldn't get unemployment benefits, but I heard some things changed. Can you claim unemployment if you are self employed in Washington state? I've been paying into the system through my LLC but I'm not sure if that qualifies me for Washington ESD benefits. Has anyone been through this process?

Yes, self-employed individuals can potentially qualify for unemployment benefits in Washington state under certain circumstances. You'll need to have been paying into the unemployment insurance system voluntarily or through specific programs. The key is whether you've been making contributions to Washington ESD.

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I think I have been paying in through my business tax filings but I'm not 100% sure. How do I verify if I've been contributing to the unemployment system?

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You can check your contribution history by logging into your SecureAccess Washington account or calling Washington ESD directly to verify your eligibility status.

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I went through this last year when my freelance work disappeared. The process is definitely more complicated than regular W-2 employees. You need to prove your earnings history and that you're genuinely unable to work due to lack of available work, not just choosing not to work.

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What kind of documentation did they require from you? I have all my 1099s and business records but wasn't sure what Washington ESD specifically needs.

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Tax returns, 1099s, business licenses, and detailed records of your attempts to find work. They scrutinize self-employed claims much more closely than regular unemployment claims.

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How does that work exactly? I've been trying to call Washington ESD for days about my self-employment situation.

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Mei Liu

wait i thought self employed people couldnt get unemployment at all?? when did this change

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Washington state has had provisions for self-employed workers for several years now, but it requires voluntary participation in the unemployment insurance program. Many people don't know about it.

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Mei Liu

oh man i wish i knew about this when my business failed in 2023

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The eligibility requirements for self-employed individuals are pretty strict. You need to have been paying quarterly contributions to Washington ESD, meet minimum earnings thresholds, and prove that your lack of work is involuntary. It's not like you can just decide to stop working and collect benefits.

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What are the minimum earnings requirements? I made good money in 2023 and early 2024 but this year has been terrible.

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You need to have earned at least $1,000 in your base period quarters and your total base period wages must be at least 1.5 times your highest quarter earnings. The calculations can get complex for self-employed income.

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This is exactly why the unemployment system is broken! Self-employed people pay taxes too but getting benefits is like jumping through hoops on fire. The whole system is designed for traditional employees and everyone else gets screwed.

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I get the frustration but the requirements exist because self-employed income is harder to verify and the potential for abuse is higher. It's not perfect but there are legitimate reasons for the extra scrutiny.

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Maybe but when your business dies through no fault of your own you shouldnt have to prove your worthiness to get help

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I'm in a similar situation with my photography business. Wedding season never really recovered and now I'm scrambling. Did you file as an LLC or sole proprietorship? I'm wondering if the business structure matters for Washington ESD eligibility.

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I'm an LLC but I think sole proprietors can also qualify as long as they've been paying into the system. The business structure might affect how you report income though.

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The business structure doesn't matter as much as whether you've been making voluntary contributions and how you've been reporting your income to Washington ESD.

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One thing to keep in mind is that if you qualify, your weekly benefit amount will be based on your reported self-employment income. Make sure all your earnings were properly reported because that's what Washington ESD will use for calculations.

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This is making me nervous because I probably under-reported some cash payments early in my business. Will that disqualify me completely?

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It won't necessarily disqualify you but it could affect your benefit amount. You should report all income accurately when you apply and be prepared to explain any discrepancies.

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Just went through this process myself after my food truck business failed. The application took forever and they asked for SO much documentation. Bank statements, tax returns, business licenses, lease agreements, everything. Be prepared for a long wait for approval too.

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How long did the whole process take from application to first payment?

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About 8 weeks for me, but that included some back and forth about documentation. Regular employees usually get processed much faster.

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Another thing about Claimyr - they're really helpful for self-employed situations because the eligibility questions are more complex and you often need to speak with someone who understands the nuances. Their service made it possible for me to get clear answers instead of guessing from the Washington ESD website.

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Is there a cost for using that service? I'm already struggling financially.

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There is a fee but honestly it was worth it for me to avoid weeks of frustration trying to get through on my own. The time saved was valuable.

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One more tip - make sure you understand the job search requirements for self-employed claimants. You can't just look for clients for your existing business. You need to be genuinely seeking employment or demonstrating that you're available for work in other capacities.

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Wait, so I can't just document that I'm looking for new consulting clients? I have to look for regular employment too?

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You need to show that you're available for work generally, not just trying to revive your business. This might include looking for part-time employment or contract work with other companies.

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honestly this sounds like a nightmare. maybe its easier to just find a regular job than deal with all this bureaucracy

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That's what I'm starting to think too but the job market in my field isn't great right now either.

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Don't give up too easily. If you've been paying into the system and qualify, these benefits can provide crucial support while you transition or rebuild your business.

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For anyone considering this route, make sure you have a clear timeline of when your business income dropped and why. Washington ESD will want to understand that the loss of work was involuntary and not just a business decision on your part.

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That makes sense. I can document exactly when my contracts ended and show that I've been actively trying to find new work.

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Perfect. That kind of documentation will be really helpful for your case. Keep records of all your job search and client outreach efforts too.

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My accountant told me about the self-employment unemployment option but said most people don't bother because of how complicated it is. Sounds like some of you made it work though.

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It's complicated but not impossible. If you really need the support and you've been paying in, it's worth pursuing.

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Good to know. I might have to look into this if things don't turn around soon.

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One thing I learned is that you can't be receiving unemployment benefits and trying to actively run your business at the same time. You have to genuinely be available for other work, which might mean putting your business on hold.

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So if I get approved, I can't take on any consulting work at all? What if it's just small projects to keep food on the table?

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You have to report any income and it might affect your benefits. The rules about working while on unemployment apply to self-employed people too.

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Just wanted to follow up - Claimyr helped me get connected with a Washington ESD specialist who specifically handles self-employment cases. Those folks really know the ins and outs of the requirements and can give you much better guidance than the general customer service reps.

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That sounds really helpful. I think I'm going to need expert guidance to navigate this process correctly.

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I used them too for my self-employment claim and it made a huge difference. The regular phone lines just couldn't answer my specific questions.

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Final advice - don't wait too long to apply if you think you might qualify. There are time limits on when you can file your initial claim, and the process takes longer for self-employed individuals. Start gathering your documentation now.

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Thanks everyone for all the advice. I'm going to start putting together my paperwork and see if I can get through to Washington ESD to verify my eligibility.

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Good luck! The process isn't easy but if you qualify it can provide important financial support during a difficult transition.

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This thread has been really helpful. I had no idea self-employed people could potentially get unemployment benefits in Washington. Going to research this more for my own situation.

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Glad it was useful! The eligibility requirements are specific but it's definitely an option worth exploring if your self-employment income has disappeared.

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Definitely going to look into whether I've been paying into the system through my business taxes.

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been following this discussion and wow there's so much i didn't know about unemployment for business owners. saving this thread for reference

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Same here! I learned more from this discussion than from hours of trying to navigate the Washington ESD website.

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That's why these forums are so valuable. Real experiences from people who've actually been through the process.

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Update for anyone still following - I finally got through to Washington ESD and confirmed that I have been paying voluntary contributions through my business. Going to start the application process this week.

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That's great news! Having those contributions on record will make your application much stronger.

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Awesome! Make sure you have all your documentation organized before you start the online application. It makes the process much smoother.

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Thanks for the update! This gives me hope that I might qualify too. Good luck with your application process.

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Just wanted to add that if you're self-employed and considering applying, make sure you understand the base period requirements. Washington ESD looks at your earnings from 5 quarters ago, not your most recent income. So even if your business just failed recently, they'll be calculating benefits based on what you earned over a year ago. This caught me off guard when I applied - I thought they'd use my recent high-earning quarters, but the system doesn't work that way. It's worth checking what your base period earnings look like before you invest time in the application process.

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That's a really important point about the base period! I hadn't realized they look that far back. My business was doing really well 5 quarters ago but tanked this year, so that might actually work in my favor for benefit calculations. Do you know if there's any way to use more recent quarters if your older earnings were lower?

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