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Diego Vargas

Can you file for unemployment if you are self employed - Washington ESD eligibility?

I've been running my own small consulting business for the past 2 years but work has completely dried up. I haven't had any clients in 6 weeks and I'm wondering if I can file for unemployment benefits through Washington ESD. I know self-employed people usually don't qualify but I heard there might be some exceptions? Has anyone been in this situation before? I'm really struggling to pay my bills and need to know if I have any options through the unemployment system.

Unfortunately, traditional unemployment insurance (UI) through Washington ESD is only for employees who had wages withheld for unemployment taxes. Self-employed individuals typically don't qualify because they haven't paid into the system. However, there might be some exceptions if you also had W-2 employment recently.

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I did have a part-time W-2 job last year but quit to focus on my business. Would that count?

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Possibly! Washington ESD looks at your base period earnings. If you had sufficient W-2 wages in your base period, you might qualify. You'd need to check your earnings history on your SecureAccess Washington account.

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The pandemic programs like PUA (Pandemic Unemployment Assistance) for self-employed ended in 2021. Regular UI is still only for traditional employees who lost their jobs through no fault of their own.

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Yeah those pandemic benefits were a lifesaver for freelancers but they're long gone now. Back to the old rules unfortunately.

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That's what I was afraid of. The pandemic programs would have been perfect for my situation.

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I actually used Claimyr to get through to Washington ESD when I had questions about my eligibility. It's really hard to reach anyone by phone normally, but they have this service that helps you get connected to an actual agent. Check out claimyr.com - they have a video demo at https://youtu.be/7DieNd3C7zQ that shows how it works. Might be worth trying to get a definitive answer about your specific situation.

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Thanks for the suggestion! I've been trying to call Washington ESD for days but keep getting the busy signal. I'll check out that service.

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Never heard of Claimyr but honestly anything that helps you actually talk to someone at Washington ESD sounds worth trying. The phone system is impossible.

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You should definitely apply if you had any W-2 earnings in your base period. The worst they can do is deny you, but you might be surprised. I know someone who was mostly self-employed but had enough W-2 wages to qualify for partial benefits.

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How do I figure out what my base period is? I'm not sure which quarters they'll look at.

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Your base period is usually the first four of the last five completed calendar quarters before you file. So if you file now in 2025, they'd look at your wages from Q1 2024 through Q4 2024.

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That's correct. And you need wages in at least two quarters of your base period to qualify, plus meet the minimum wage requirements.

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ugh the whole system is so confusing. I'm in a similar boat - had a mix of 1099 and W-2 work last year and now everything's dried up. Trying to figure out if I qualify is giving me a headache

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Right? It's so stressful trying to navigate all these rules when you're already worried about money.

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This is exactly why I mentioned Claimyr earlier - when you're dealing with a complex situation like mixed employment types, talking to an actual Washington ESD agent who can look at your specific case is invaluable.

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Here's what you need to know about eligibility: 1) You must have earned wages as an employee (not self-employment income), 2) You must have wages in at least 2 quarters of your base period, 3) Your total base period wages must be at least 680 hours at minimum wage, 4) You must be able and available for work, 5) You must be actively seeking work.

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That's really helpful, thank you! The 'actively seeking work' part is interesting - does that mean I'd have to stop trying to get consulting clients?

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Not necessarily. You can continue self-employment activities while on unemployment, but you must report any earnings and they'll be deducted from your weekly benefit amount. You also need to be available for suitable W-2 employment.

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I thought about this too when my freelance work disappeared. Turns out I didn't have enough W-2 wages in my base period to qualify. Really wish they had better support for independent contractors.

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That's disappointing but good to know. Did you find any other resources or assistance programs?

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I looked into some local small business assistance programs and food banks. Not much else available unfortunately.

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The system is so backwards. Self-employed people pay tons of taxes but can't get unemployment benefits. It's not fair.

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Well, self-employed people don't pay unemployment taxes though. That's specifically what funds the UI system.

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True but we pay plenty of other taxes and get less safety net support when things go bad.

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Don't give up hope yet! If you had that part-time W-2 job, there's a chance you might qualify. The Washington ESD website has a benefit calculator you can use to estimate your potential benefits based on your wage history.

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I'll definitely check that out. Where do I find the benefit calculator on their site?

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It should be on the main Washington ESD homepage under 'Calculate Your Benefits' or something similar. You'll need your wage information handy.

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been there done that. tried to file when my business tanked in 2023. They denied me because I didn't have enough recent W-2 wages. Took forever to get an answer too

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How long did the whole process take? I'm worried about waiting months for an answer.

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took about 6 weeks from filing to getting the denial letter. probably would have been faster if I could have talked to someone

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I'm curious about this too. What if you were self-employed but also worked some gig work through apps that issued W-2s or 1099s? Would the gig work count?

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Only W-2 wages count toward unemployment eligibility. 1099 income is considered self-employment income and doesn't qualify you for benefits.

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Ugh, I was hoping my DoorDash work might count but that's all 1099 income.

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My advice would be to apply anyway if you think you might have enough W-2 wages. Better to try and get denied than not try at all. Plus if you do qualify, you can backdate your claim to when you first became unemployed.

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That's a good point. I should probably just bite the bullet and apply to see what happens.

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Before you apply, I'd really recommend using Claimyr to talk to an agent first. They can look at your specific wage history and tell you if you're likely to qualify. Saves you the hassle of applying and waiting if you don't meet the requirements.

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What about if you were self-employed but paid into unemployment voluntarily? I heard some states let you do that.

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Washington State doesn't currently have a voluntary unemployment insurance program for self-employed individuals. Some other states do, but not Washington.

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Darn, that would have been perfect. Maybe they'll add that option in the future.

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This thread is making me realize I need to keep better track of my different income sources. Had no idea the distinction between W-2 and 1099 mattered so much for unemployment eligibility.

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Same here! I wish someone had explained this stuff when I was starting my business.

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It's definitely worth understanding these distinctions when you're doing mixed employment. The tax implications are different too.

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I actually got approved for unemployment benefits even though I was mostly self-employed! The key was that I had worked a temp job for 6 months the year before and that gave me enough W-2 wages to qualify. Don't assume you won't qualify without checking your actual wage history.

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That's encouraging! How much did you get in weekly benefits?

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I got about $180 per week, which wasn't huge but definitely helped cover some bills while I was rebuilding my client base.

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Did you have to keep looking for W-2 jobs while collecting benefits, or could you focus on getting new clients?

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I had to do both - keep looking for regular employment and report my job search activities, but I could still work on getting new clients as long as I reported any income.

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Mei Liu

The whole system needs an overhaul for the modern economy. So many people do freelance and gig work now but the unemployment system is still stuck in the 1930s.

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Exactly! The pandemic showed how many people fall through the cracks with the current system.

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True, but the funding mechanism would need to change too. It's not just about eligibility rules.

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OP, did you end up checking your wage history? I'm curious what you found out about your eligibility.

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I'm still trying to log into my SecureAccess Washington account to check my wage history. The website keeps timing out on me.

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This is another reason why Claimyr is so helpful - instead of struggling with the website, you can just talk to an agent who can pull up your information right away.

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Hope this thread helped answer your question! It's a complicated topic but at least now you know what to look for. Good luck with whatever you decide to do.

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Thanks everyone! This has been really helpful. I'm going to check my wage history and probably try to talk to someone at Washington ESD to get a definitive answer about my situation.

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Smart approach. Having your wage information ready when you talk to them will make the conversation much more productive.

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