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Freya Christensen

Can I file for unemployment if I am self employed in Washington?

I've been running my own small consulting business for the past 2 years but work has completely dried up since last month. I'm wondering if self-employed people can actually file for unemployment benefits in Washington? I've never had to deal with this before and I'm not sure if Washington ESD covers independent contractors or just regular employees. Has anyone been through this situation?

Omar Hassan

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Unfortunately, self-employed individuals typically can't qualify for regular unemployment insurance (UI) benefits in Washington because you haven't been paying into the system through payroll taxes. Washington ESD requires that you've had wages reported by an employer to be eligible for benefits.

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That's what I was afraid of. So there's basically no safety net for people like me?

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There might be other options though - keep reading the thread!

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Diego Chavez

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Actually, there are some exceptions. If you were previously an employee and then became self-employed, you might still have a valid claim based on your previous W-2 wages. Washington ESD looks at your base year earnings from employers, not self-employment income.

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I did work for a company until about 3 years ago before starting my business. Would that count?

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Diego Chavez

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Probably not - Washington ESD typically looks at the most recent 12-15 months of employment history. Three years is likely too far back to establish a valid claim.

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NeonNebula

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This is so frustrating! I've been trying to get through to Washington ESD for weeks to ask about this exact situation. Their phone lines are always busy and when I do get through, I get put on hold forever and then disconnected.

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NeonNebula

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Interesting, I'll check that out. At this point I'm willing to try anything to actually talk to someone at Washington ESD.

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Sean Kelly

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wait what about gig workers? i drive for uber and doordash sometimes, does that count as self employed?

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Omar Hassan

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Gig workers are typically classified as independent contractors, so you'd face the same issues as other self-employed people. However, some gig companies have started providing benefits - you'd need to check with your specific platforms.

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Sean Kelly

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ugh this system is so confusing

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Have you looked into other forms of assistance? While you can't get regular UI benefits, there might be other programs available for self-employed individuals experiencing hardship. The state has various emergency assistance programs that don't require traditional employment history.

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I haven't really looked into that. Do you know what programs specifically?

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I'd suggest checking with DSHS for emergency assistance programs, and also look into local small business resources - sometimes they have emergency funding for struggling businesses.

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Zara Mirza

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Been self employed for 10 years and this has always been the trade off - more freedom but no safety net when things go bad. It sucks but thats the reality of being your own boss.

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Luca Russo

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Exactly! People always think being self-employed is all sunshine and rainbows but they don't see situations like this.

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Yeah I'm definitely learning that lesson the hard way right now.

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Nia Harris

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Actually, you should still file an application with Washington ESD even if you think you won't qualify. Sometimes people are surprised by what they're eligible for, especially if you had any W-2 income mixed in with your self-employment. The worst they can do is deny your claim.

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Omar Hassan

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This is good advice. Filing doesn't cost anything and Washington ESD will review your entire work history, not just what you think is relevant.

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That's actually a really good point. I'll give it a shot.

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GalaxyGazer

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I was in a similar situation last year - had my own business fail and thought I was out of luck. Turns out I had some part-time W-2 work I'd forgotten about that qualified me for benefits. The amount wasn't huge but it helped keep me afloat while I looked for new work.

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How far back did Washington ESD look at your work history?

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GalaxyGazer

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They looked at what they call the 'base year' which is typically the first four of the last five completed calendar quarters before you file. So it can go back over a year depending on when you apply.

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Mateo Sanchez

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The whole system is designed for traditional employees and leaves self-employed people hanging. I've been advocating for changes but it's slow going. For now, definitely explore all options including local assistance programs.

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Aisha Mahmood

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It's really unfair that people who work just as hard but happen to be self-employed get left out of the safety net.

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Mateo Sanchez

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Agreed. The system needs to catch up with how people actually work in the modern economy.

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Ethan Moore

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One thing to consider - if your consulting business is truly done, you might want to look for traditional employment so you can start building up eligibility for future unemployment benefits. It's not ideal but it's reality.

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Yeah that's probably what I'm going to have to do. Need the steady income anyway at this point.

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Plus having W-2 wages will make you eligible for UI if you ever need it again in the future.

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Carmen Vega

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Just to clarify something I saw earlier - even if you think you might qualify based on old W-2 wages, you still need to meet the weekly eligibility requirements. That means being able and available for work, actively seeking employment, etc. Self-employed people sometimes struggle with this part.

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Omar Hassan

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Good point. You can't continue running your business while collecting UI benefits - it creates conflicts with the availability requirements.

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So I'd basically have to shut down my business completely?

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Carmen Vega

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If you're collecting UI benefits, yes. You have to be available for full-time work and actively job searching. Running a business on the side would violate those requirements.

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I tried calling Washington ESD about this exact question months ago and never got a clear answer. The representatives seemed confused about how to handle self-employment situations.

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I might have to try that. The regular phone system is basically useless for anything complicated.

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Andre Moreau

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Don't forget about potential business insurance claims if you have any coverage. Some business policies include coverage for loss of income, though it's not common for small solo operations.

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I never thought about that. I do have some basic business insurance - I'll check what it covers.

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Zoe Stavros

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Most basic business policies don't include income protection but it's worth checking your policy documents.

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Jamal Harris

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The bottom line is that Washington's unemployment system isn't set up for self-employed people, but there are other resources out there. Don't give up - just look beyond UI benefits for help.

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Thanks everyone for all the advice. I'm going to file an application just in case, but also start looking into other assistance programs and probably traditional employment.

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Mei Chen

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Good luck! The job market is actually pretty decent right now for most fields.

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Liam Sullivan

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One last thought - if you do end up getting traditional employment, consider keeping some self-employment on the side if possible. That way you have multiple income streams and aren't as vulnerable to layoffs.

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Amara Okafor

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That's smart but you have to be careful about conflicts of interest with your employer and also how it affects UI eligibility if you need benefits later.

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Liam Sullivan

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True, definitely something to plan carefully and be transparent about with any employer.

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Oliver Schulz

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Just want to add that some self-employed folks might be eligible for Pandemic Unemployment Assistance (PUA) or similar federal programs if they're still active. Also, if you've done any contract work where the company treated you as an employee and withheld taxes (even incorrectly), that could potentially count toward your eligibility. The rules can be more nuanced than they appear on the surface, so definitely worth having Washington ESD review your specific situation even if it seems hopeless at first glance.

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