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Thais Soares

Can I apply for unemployment if I am self employed in Washington state?

I've been running my own small consulting business for the past 2 years but work has really dried up lately. I'm wondering if self-employed people can even apply for Washington ESD unemployment benefits? I know during COVID there was some program for contractors but I'm not sure what the rules are now. Has anyone who was self-employed successfully gotten regular UI benefits through Washington ESD?

Nalani Liu

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Self-employed individuals generally can't get regular unemployment insurance in Washington state because you haven't been paying into the UI system as an employee. The Pandemic Unemployment Assistance (PUA) program that covered self-employed ended in 2021. However, if you also had W-2 employment in the past 18 months, you might qualify for regular UI based on those wages.

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Thais Soares

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I did have a part-time W-2 job about 8 months ago that lasted for 3 months. Would that count toward qualifying?

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Nalani Liu

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Yes potentially! Washington ESD looks at your highest earning quarter in your base period. If that W-2 work meets the minimum requirements, you could qualify. You'd need to have earned at least $3,500 in your base period.

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Axel Bourke

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i tried applying last year as self employed and got denied immediately, they said i had no qualifying wages since i was 1099 contractor only

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Aidan Percy

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That's frustrating but makes sense. The system is really designed for traditional employees who pay into unemployment insurance through payroll deductions.

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Did you try calling Washington ESD to ask about your specific situation? Sometimes there are exceptions or other programs available.

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Norman Fraser

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If you're having trouble getting through to Washington ESD to discuss your eligibility, I'd recommend checking out Claimyr at claimyr.com - they help people actually connect with ESD agents by phone. There's a good demo video at https://youtu.be/7DieNd3C7zQ that shows how it works. Really useful when you need to discuss complex situations like mixed employment types.

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Thais Soares

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Thanks I'll look into that. I definitely need to talk to someone who can review my specific work history.

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Kendrick Webb

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Never heard of that service but anything that helps get through to ESD sounds worth trying. Those phone lines are impossible.

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Hattie Carson

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You might also want to look into Washington's Self-Employment Assistance Program (SEAP) if you're interested in starting a new business while receiving unemployment benefits. It's not available in every state but Washington does offer it. You'd still need to qualify for regular UI first though.

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Thais Soares

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Interesting, I hadn't heard of that program. Is it through Washington ESD as well?

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Hattie Carson

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Yes it's administered through Washington ESD in partnership with the Small Business Administration. But like I said, you have to be eligible for regular unemployment first.

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That program sounds complicated. How do you even find out if you qualify for something like that?

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The key thing is Washington ESD will look at ALL your employment in the past 18 months, both W-2 and any other qualifying work. Make sure when you apply that you report everything accurately. Sometimes people forget about short-term jobs that could actually make them eligible.

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Thais Soares

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Good point. I also did some temporary work through a staffing agency earlier this year. That would be W-2 wages too right?

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Exactly! Temp agency work counts as regular employment for UI purposes. That plus your other W-2 job might be enough to qualify you.

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Dyllan Nantx

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just apply and see what happens, worst they can do is say no and you're not any worse off than you are now

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Nalani Liu

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That's true, there's no penalty for applying and being denied if you genuinely thought you might qualify.

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Plus if you get denied you can always appeal if you think they made a mistake about your wages or work history.

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Aidan Percy

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I'm in a similar boat - been freelancing for years but had some contract work that was W-2. The whole system is confusing when you have mixed income types. Really wish there was better guidance for people like us.

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Anna Xian

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The gig economy has made employment so much more complicated but the unemployment system hasn't really caught up yet.

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Thais Soares

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Exactly! It feels like the rules were written for people with traditional 9-5 jobs only.

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Make sure you have all your wage records ready before applying. Washington ESD will verify your earnings with employers but it speeds things up if you have your own records. Pay stubs, 1099s, W-2s, everything.

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Thais Soares

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Good advice. I think I have most of my paperwork but I'll need to dig up those temp agency pay stubs.

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Rajan Walker

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You can also request wage records from Washington ESD if you're missing anything. They keep records of all reported wages.

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Whatever you do, don't try to fudge your employment history or make it seem like you were an employee when you were really self-employed. They will find out and it could cause big problems later.

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Thais Soares

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Definitely planning to be completely honest about everything. Not worth the risk of getting in trouble.

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Smart approach. UI fraud is serious business and not worth it.

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Ev Luca

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I used Claimyr recently when I needed to get clarification on my claim status and it actually worked. Got through to someone at Washington ESD on the first try after weeks of busy signals. Definitely worth the cost when you need real answers about complex situations.

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Thais Soares

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That's encouraging to hear. I think I'm going to need to talk to someone to understand my specific situation better.

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Avery Davis

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How much does that service cost? Is it a one-time thing or do you pay monthly?

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Nalani Liu

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One more thing to consider - if you do qualify for UI based on your W-2 wages, you'll need to be actively looking for work and available to accept suitable employment. Running your consulting business on the side might affect your eligibility if it interferes with your job search requirements.

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Thais Soares

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That's a good point I hadn't thought about. If I do get approved I'd probably need to scale back the consulting work.

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Collins Angel

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You can do part-time work while on UI but you have to report all earnings and it reduces your weekly benefit amount.

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Marcelle Drum

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Bottom line - gather all your employment records, apply through the Washington ESD website, and be prepared to possibly need to appeal if they initially deny you due to the self-employment confusion. Many people with mixed employment types have to go through the appeal process to get their benefits approved.

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Thais Soares

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Thanks everyone for all the helpful advice. I'm going to gather my paperwork and apply this week.

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Tate Jensen

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Good luck! Hope it works out for you. The process can be frustrating but persistence pays off.

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Adaline Wong

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don't forget to file your weekly claims right away if you do get approved, even if the first payment is delayed. missing weekly claims can mess up your whole case

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Thais Soares

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Will definitely keep that in mind. Thanks for the reminder!

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Norman Fraser

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One last suggestion - if you end up needing to call Washington ESD multiple times during this process, that Claimyr service I mentioned earlier really does help cut through the phone line chaos. Saved me hours of redialing when I had questions about my claim.

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Gabriel Ruiz

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I might need to try that too. I've been trying to reach ESD for weeks about my own claim issues with no luck.

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Thais Soares

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I bookmarked their site earlier. Definitely seems like it could be useful for dealing with ESD phone issues.

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