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Samantha Johnson

Do I need unemployment insurance for my business in Washington state?

I'm starting a small consulting business and trying to figure out all the required insurances. Do I need to get unemployment insurance coverage through Washington ESD if I'm going to hire employees? What happens if I don't register properly? I've been reading the Washington ESD website but it's confusing about when exactly you need to start paying into the system.

Nick Kravitz

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Yes, if you're hiring employees in Washington state, you're required to register with Washington ESD for unemployment insurance. You need to register within 30 days of hiring your first employee or within 30 days of having a payroll of $1,000 or more in any calendar quarter.

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Thanks! Do I need to register before I hire anyone or can I wait until after?

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Nick Kravitz

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You can wait until after, but don't delay too long. The 30-day window starts ticking once you meet the requirements.

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Hannah White

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I went through this last year when I started my landscaping company. You definitely need to register with Washington ESD. The penalties for not registering can be pretty steep - they can go back and assess taxes plus interest and penalties.

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Michael Green

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What kind of penalties are we talking about? I'm in a similar situation and getting worried.

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Hannah White

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They can assess back taxes for up to 4 years plus a 25% penalty and interest. Not fun. Just register as soon as you need to.

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Mateo Silva

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honestly the washington esd website is terrible for figuring this stuff out. i spent hours trying to understand when i needed to register and still wasn't sure

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Tell me about it! I called them three times and got different answers each time.

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Cameron Black

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The basic rule is pretty simple - if you have employees, you need unemployment insurance. Independent contractors don't count, but be careful about misclassifying workers. Washington ESD is cracking down on that.

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What's the difference between employees and contractors for this purpose?

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Employees work under your direction and control. Contractors are independent. But Washington has strict tests for this - look up the ABC test on the Washington ESD website.

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The ABC test is no joke. I thought my workers were contractors but Washington ESD reclassified them as employees and hit me with a huge bill.

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Ruby Garcia

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What about if you're just a sole proprietor with no employees? Do you still need unemployment insurance?

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Nick Kravitz

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No, sole proprietors without employees don't need to register for unemployment insurance. You can't collect unemployment benefits on yourself anyway.

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But if you incorporate or form an LLC and pay yourself wages, then you might need to register depending on your ownership percentage.

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I'm going through the registration process right now and it's actually not that bad once you get started. You need your federal EIN and some basic business info.

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How long does the registration take?

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Mine was approved within a few days. Pretty quick actually.

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Maya Lewis

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Don't forget you'll also need industrial insurance through L&I if you have employees. That's separate from unemployment insurance but equally required.

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Ugh, more bureaucracy. Is there a list somewhere of all the insurance requirements for Washington businesses?

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Isaac Wright

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Check the Department of Commerce website - they have a good business startup checklist.

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Lucy Taylor

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Been running my business for 5 years now. The unemployment insurance payments aren't that expensive for most small businesses. It's based on your payroll and your experience rating.

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Connor Murphy

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What's an experience rating?

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Lucy Taylor

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It's based on how many of your former employees have filed unemployment claims. New businesses start at a standard rate.

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KhalilStar

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Is that legit? Sounds too good to be true.

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Kaiya Rivera

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Make sure you understand the quarterly reporting requirements too. You'll need to file reports and pay taxes every quarter once you're registered.

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What happens if you miss a quarterly report?

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Kaiya Rivera

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Late fees and penalties. They're pretty strict about the deadlines.

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Noah Irving

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does anyone know if family members count as employees for this? thinking about hiring my spouse

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Nick Kravitz

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Spouses generally don't count for unemployment insurance purposes in sole proprietorships or partnerships. But if you're incorporated, they might.

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Vanessa Chang

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Check with an accountant on this one. The rules get weird with family members.

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Madison King

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The registration process is all online now through SecureAccess Washington. Much easier than it used to be when you had to mail in forms.

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Julian Paolo

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Good to know! I was dreading paperwork.

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Ella Knight

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Pro tip: Keep good records from day one. Washington ESD can audit your business and they'll want to see payroll records, worker classifications, etc.

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How far back can they audit?

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Ella Knight

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Usually 3-4 years, but longer if they think there was fraud or gross negligence.

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How much does that cost?

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Worth it to actually talk to someone instead of guessing. Check their website at claimyr.com for details.

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Jade Santiago

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Bottom line - if you're hiring people, register with Washington ESD. The penalties for not doing it are way worse than just following the rules from the start.

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Caleb Stone

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Agreed. Better safe than sorry with government requirements.

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As someone who just went through this process last month, I can confirm you definitely need to register if you're hiring employees. One thing that helped me was calling the Washington ESD Business Services line directly - they have a separate number for new business inquiries that's usually less busy than the general unemployment line. The registration itself is pretty straightforward once you have your federal EIN. Just don't put it off because those penalties add up fast if you're late.

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