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Noah Irving

Can you file for disability and unemployment Washington ESD at the same time?

I'm dealing with a back injury from my warehouse job that might keep me out of work for several months. My doctor says I should apply for disability through Social Security, but I'm also wondering if I can file for unemployment benefits through Washington ESD while I wait for the disability determination. Has anyone been in this situation? I'm confused about whether you can collect both or if filing for one disqualifies you from the other. Really need some income coming in while I figure this out.

This is actually more complicated than most people think. You CAN apply for both, but there are some contradictions between the two programs. For unemployment, you have to certify that you're able and available for work each week. For disability, you're essentially saying you CAN'T work. Washington ESD will likely question your availability if they find out about a disability claim.

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So does that mean I should only pick one? I really need some income while waiting for disability to get approved since that can take months.

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You can apply for both, but be prepared to explain the difference. Maybe you can do some types of work but not your previous job. Document everything carefully.

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I went through this exact situation last year. You can file for both but you need to be very careful about how you answer the weekly claim questions. When Washington ESD asks if you're able and available for work, you need to honestly say yes only if you truly are available for SOME type of work, even if not your previous job.

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What happened with your claims? Did you end up getting both or did one get denied?

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I got unemployment for about 3 months while waiting for disability. Once disability was approved, I had to stop the UI claims. But it helped bridge the gap financially.

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honestly this sounds like a mess waiting to happen. if you're disabled enough to file for disability why would you be looking for work? the systems don't really work together

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Because disability takes forever to get approved and people need to eat in the meantime! Not everyone can afford to wait 6+ months with no income.

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fair point but seems like you're asking for trouble with washington esd

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I had similar confusion when I was trying to reach Washington ESD about a complex situation like this. The phone lines are always busy and it's nearly impossible to get through to an actual person who can explain these nuances. I ended up using Claimyr (claimyr.com) to get connected to an ESD agent who could walk me through the specifics. They have a video demo at https://youtu.be/7DieNd3C7zQ that shows how it works. Way better than spending hours on hold.

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Never heard of that service before. Does it actually work for getting through to Washington ESD?

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Yeah it worked for me. They handle the calling and waiting so you don't have to sit on hold for hours. Worth it when you need specific answers about complex situations like yours.

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The key thing to understand is that these are two different agencies with different rules. Social Security Disability looks at your medical condition and whether you can work at ALL. Washington ESD looks at whether you're available for work each week. You might be able to do light desk work but not heavy warehouse work, for example.

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That makes sense. So I could say I'm available for office work or something that doesn't involve heavy lifting?

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Exactly. As long as you're genuinely available for some type of work and actively seeking it, you should be okay with UI. Just be honest on your weekly claims.

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But make sure you're actually applying for those types of jobs too. Washington ESD requires work search activities each week.

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this is why the system is broken. you shouldn't have to jump through hoops like this just to survive while waiting for disability approval. it's ridiculous

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I agree it's frustrating but that's the reality we're dealing with. Better to know the rules than get denied benefits you might qualify for.

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One important thing - if you do get approved for both and receive overlapping payments, you'll likely have to pay back one of them. Social Security will want to know about any unemployment benefits you received during the same period as your disability claim.

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Oh wow, I didn't think about that. So even if both approve me, I might have to pay money back?

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Potentially yes. That's why it's crucial to keep detailed records of everything and maybe consult with a disability attorney if things get complicated.

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I'm in almost the exact same boat right now. Hurt my shoulder at work and can't do my construction job anymore. Filed for both about 6 weeks ago. UI got approved pretty quickly but I'm still waiting on disability. The weekly certifications are tricky - I have to explain that I can work but not construction.

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How are you handling the job search requirements? Are you actually applying for non-construction jobs?

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Yeah I'm applying for office jobs, retail, anything that doesn't require heavy lifting. It's depressing honestly but I need the UI benefits while waiting for disability.

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I feel you. This whole situation sucks but we gotta do what we gotta do.

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Has anyone actually gotten in trouble for this? Like has Washington ESD ever denied someone's claim because they found out about a disability application?

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I haven't personally seen that happen, but they could potentially question your availability if there's a clear contradiction. That's why documentation and honesty are so important.

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My cousin got flagged for this and had to go through adjudication. Took forever to resolve but eventually got approved once she explained the difference between her disabilities and her work availability.

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Whatever you do, don't lie on your weekly claims. If you're not truly available for work, don't certify that you are. The penalties for UI fraud are serious and not worth the risk.

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Definitely won't lie. I just want to make sure I understand what 'available for work' actually means in my situation.

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Another option is to talk to a Washington ESD representative about your specific situation. I know I mentioned Claimyr earlier, but seriously, when you have complex questions like this, it's worth getting through to an actual person who can give you guidance based on your exact circumstances rather than general advice from forums.

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How much does that Claimyr thing cost though? If I'm already struggling financially I don't want to spend money I don't have.

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I think it's worth it compared to potentially losing benefits or having to pay them back later due to misunderstandings. The peace of mind knowing you're doing everything correctly is valuable.

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just wanted to say good luck with everything. dealing with injuries and benefit applications is stressful enough without having to navigate all these bureaucratic complications.

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Thanks, I appreciate that. It really is overwhelming trying to figure all this out while dealing with the injury itself.

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One more thing to consider - if your doctor has given you work restrictions, make sure you have those documented. That can help support your case that you're available for work within your limitations but genuinely disabled for your previous job.

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Good point. I do have paperwork from my doctor about lifting restrictions. I should make copies of everything.

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Yes, definitely keep copies of all medical documentation. It could be crucial if either agency questions your claims later.

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this thread has been really helpful. i'm dealing with a similar situation with a knee injury and wasn't sure about applying for both. sounds like it's possible but requires careful handling

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Yeah it seems like the key is being honest about what you can and can't do workwise. Hope your situation works out too.

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Final thought - consider timing too. Some people wait to see if they get approved for disability before filing for unemployment, while others file for UI immediately to bridge the gap. There's no right answer, it depends on your financial situation and how confident you are in your disability claim.

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I think I need the UI now rather than waiting. Bills don't stop coming just because I'm injured. I'll just be really careful about how I handle the weekly certifications.

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Smart approach. Better to have some income coming in while you figure out the long-term disability situation.

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Make sure you understand Washington ESD's work search requirements too. You'll need to log your job search activities each week, so keep track of where you're applying and when.

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Do they actually check those work search logs or is it just something you keep in case they ask?

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They can audit your work searches, especially if your claim gets flagged for any reason. Better to keep detailed records from the start.

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I used that Claimyr service someone mentioned earlier when I had questions about my standby claim. Really did save me hours of trying to get through on the phone. When you're dealing with something this complex, getting official guidance is probably worth it.

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How quickly were you able to get through to someone with their service?

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It was pretty quick, maybe 20-30 minutes total instead of the usual hours of busy signals and hold music. Made a huge difference for my stress levels.

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thanks everyone for all the advice. this has been way more helpful than the generic info on the washington esd website. going to file for UI this week and be very careful about documenting everything

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Glad this thread helped you too! It's nice to know other people are dealing with similar situations.

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Good luck to both of you. Remember to keep detailed records and don't hesitate to get professional guidance if things get complicated.

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One last resource - the Washington State Department of Social and Health Services has some information about how different benefit programs interact. Might be worth checking their website too for official guidance on this topic.

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I'll definitely look into that. The more official information I can get, the better I'll feel about handling this correctly.

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