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Mateo Martinez

Can I apply for unemployment and disability at the same time in Washington?

I'm dealing with a chronic back injury that's been getting worse, but I'm still able to work in some capacity. My doctor says I might qualify for disability benefits, but I also just lost my job due to company downsizing. Can I file for both Washington ESD unemployment and disability benefits simultaneously? I'm worried about conflicts between the two programs since unemployment requires you to be able and available for work. Has anyone navigated this situation before?

This is actually more common than you'd think. You can apply for both, but there are some important considerations. For Washington ESD unemployment, you need to certify that you're able and available for work each week. For disability, you're claiming you can't work due to your condition. The key is being honest about your limitations and abilities.

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That makes sense about the potential conflict. How do I handle the weekly claims if I'm genuinely able to do some types of work but not others?

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You'd need to specify what types of work you can perform and what accommodations you need. Document everything with your doctor's input.

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I went through something similar last year with a shoulder injury. Filed for both programs and ended up getting approved for unemployment first while my disability claim was still being processed. The Washington ESD adjudicator asked detailed questions about my work capacity.

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How long did the adjudication process take for your unemployment claim? I'm worried about delays.

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About 3 weeks, but I had to provide medical documentation showing I could still perform certain job duties. The key was being specific about limitations.

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Did you have any issues with Washington ESD questioning the conflict between the two applications?

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Thanks for the suggestion! I've been trying to call for days with no luck. How quickly were you able to get through?

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Usually within a few tries instead of the hundreds of attempts I was making before. Worth it for complex situations like yours where you need specific guidance.

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wait this doesn't make sense to me... if you're disabled how can you be available for work?? seems like fraud to me

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There's a difference between total disability and partial disability. Many people have conditions that limit their work capacity but don't completely prevent them from working.

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exactly, disability isn't always black and white. someone might not be able to do physical labor but could still do desk work with accommodations

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oh ok that makes more sense then. didn't realize disability could be partial like that

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The Washington ESD will want detailed medical documentation about your functional capacity. I'd recommend getting a Residual Functional Capacity (RFC) assessment from your doctor that specifically outlines what you can and cannot do work-wise. This helps both programs understand your situation clearly.

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I haven't heard of an RFC assessment before. Is this something I request from my regular doctor or a specialist?

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Either can do it, but specialists who understand your condition might provide more detailed assessments. It's basically a form that lists your physical and mental limitations for work activities.

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I'm in a similar boat with fibromyalgia. Some days I can work, some days I can't. The uncertainty makes both applications tricky. Have you considered applying for Temporary Disability through Washington State's Paid Family Medical Leave program first?

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I didn't know Washington had a temporary disability program separate from federal disability. How does that work with unemployment?

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It's through the same system as paid family leave. You can't collect both simultaneously, but it might be a bridge while you figure out your long-term situation.

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Good point about PFML. That program is for temporary conditions while you're recovering, which might fit better than permanent disability if your condition could improve.

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just be careful about how you word things on your applications. consistency is key. if you tell unemployment you can work 40 hours a week but tell disability you can only work 10 hours, that's going to cause problems

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That's a great point about consistency. I need to be very careful about how I describe my limitations.

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Exactly why the RFC assessment is so important. Having a medical professional document your exact capabilities helps maintain consistency across applications.

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Been dealing with this mess for months. Washington ESD adjudication took forever because they had to verify my medical info. Finally got approved for partial unemployment since I can only work part-time now. Still waiting on federal disability though - that process is even slower.

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How did you handle the job search requirements while dealing with medical limitations?

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Had to document that I was only applying for jobs within my restrictions. Used WorkSourceWA to track everything and noted my limitations in the job search log.

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That's smart about documenting the limitations in your job search. Did Washington ESD accept that approach?

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Another thing - if you do get approved for both programs, there might be offset rules where they reduce one benefit based on the other. Definitely something to clarify with Washington ESD directly. That's another situation where Claimyr really helped me get clear answers instead of guessing.

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I hadn't thought about benefit offsets. This is getting complicated fast.

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The offset rules vary depending on which disability program you're talking about. Social Security Disability has different rules than state programs or private insurance.

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my brother went through this exact situation with a nerve condition. He ended up withdrawing his disability application and just focusing on unemployment while he looked for work he could actually do with his limitations. Sometimes it's easier to pick one path

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That might be the practical approach. Did he have trouble finding work that accommodated his condition?

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took a while but he eventually found remote work that didn't aggravate his condition. worked out better than trying to navigate both systems

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Don't forget about vocational rehabilitation services! Washington State DVR can help people with disabilities find suitable employment. If you're trying to stay in the workforce despite your condition, they might have resources that help with both situations.

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I haven't looked into vocational rehabilitation. Do they work with people who are currently unemployed?

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Yes, that's actually one of their main functions. They can provide job training, accommodations, and placement services for people with disabilities who want to work.

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ugh the bureaucracy is the worst part of all this. had to fill out the same medical info on like 5 different forms for different agencies. make copies of everything!

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Good advice about keeping copies. I'm already drowning in paperwork and I haven't even started yet.

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seriously get a binder or folder system set up now. you'll be referencing these documents constantly

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One more thing to consider - if your condition is likely to improve, unemployment might be the better short-term option while you recover. If it's permanent or progressive, disability might be worth pursuing even though the process takes longer.

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My doctor isn't sure if my back will improve with treatment or get worse over time. That uncertainty makes it hard to choose a path.

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In cases like that, I'd probably start with unemployment since it's faster, then pursue disability as a backup plan if the condition doesn't improve.

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That's sound advice. Unemployment benefits can start within weeks while disability can take months or years to get approved.

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whatever you decide, be 100% honest on all applications. the systems talk to each other more than people realize, and getting caught in inconsistencies can disqualify you from both programs

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That's a scary thought but important to keep in mind. Better to be cautious and consistent than risk losing everything.

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I used Claimyr when I had questions about my own complex situation involving unemployment and workers comp. The agents were able to explain exactly how Washington ESD handles overlapping benefit claims. Saved me a lot of confusion and potential mistakes.

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It sounds like getting direct guidance from Washington ESD is really important for situations like this.

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Absolutely. Generic online info doesn't cover the edge cases, and you don't want to guess wrong when it comes to benefit eligibility.

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just wanted to add that if you do get unemployment first, make sure you understand how starting work (even part-time) might affect a future disability claim. timing matters for these things

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Another thing I hadn't considered. This is why I'm glad I asked here before jumping into applications.

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yeah it's complicated stuff. better to get advice upfront than try to fix problems later

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Final thought - consider consulting with a disability attorney for a free consultation before you file anything. They can help you understand the interaction between programs and avoid common pitfalls.

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That's probably smart given how complex this is getting. Do you have any recommendations for finding attorneys who handle these cases?

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Most disability attorneys offer free consultations since they work on contingency. Just search for disability lawyers in Washington state and call a few.

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thanks for posting this question OP, I'm in a similar situation with a knee injury and this thread has been super helpful for understanding my options

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Glad it helped! This has been way more complicated than I expected but at least now I have a better idea of what I'm dealing with.

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Bottom line: yes you can apply for both, but you need to be very careful about how you present your situation. Get medical documentation, be consistent across applications, and don't hesitate to get professional guidance when needed. Good luck!

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Thank you everyone for all the advice! I feel much more prepared to navigate this process now.

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