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Cynthia Love

Can you apply for unemployment and disability at the same time in Washington ESD?

I'm dealing with a back injury from my warehouse job and my doctor says I need at least 8 weeks off work, maybe longer. My employer had to lay me off because they can't hold my position that long. I'm wondering if I can file for both unemployment benefits through Washington ESD and also apply for disability? I've heard conflicting information - some people say you can't collect both, others say there are exceptions. Has anyone been in this situation? I really need the income while I recover but don't want to mess up either claim by doing something wrong.

Darren Brooks

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This is actually a complicated situation that depends on the specifics of your case. Generally speaking, to qualify for unemployment benefits you need to be able and available for work, which conflicts with being disabled. However, Washington state does have some provisions for partial disability situations. You should definitely contact Washington ESD directly to discuss your specific circumstances.

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Cynthia Love

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Thanks for the response. Do you know if there's a specific department at Washington ESD that handles these kinds of cases? I tried calling the main number but couldn't get through.

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Darren Brooks

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The adjudication department would likely handle your case since it involves eligibility questions. Getting through by phone can be really tough though - you might want to try early morning or look into other contact methods.

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Rosie Harper

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I went through something similar last year with a shoulder injury. You can potentially collect both but there are strict rules. For unemployment, you have to be able to accept suitable work if offered, even with restrictions. For disability, you're typically claiming you can't work. The key is whether your restrictions still allow you to perform some types of work.

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Cynthia Love

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That makes sense. My doctor said no lifting over 10 pounds, but I could probably do desk work or something like that. Did you end up getting both benefits?

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Rosie Harper

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I got unemployment because I could still do office work with my restrictions. Didn't qualify for disability since I wasn't completely unable to work. It really depends on your specific medical limitations and what work you can still perform.

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Cynthia Love

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Never heard of that before. Is it legit? I'm desperate to talk to someone at ESD but hesitant about third-party services.

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I was skeptical too but it actually worked for me. They basically handle the calling and waiting so you don't have to sit on hold for hours. Worth looking into if you're stuck.

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Demi Hall

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I used Claimyr a few months ago when I had adjudication issues. It's legitimate - they just help you get connected to ESD agents when the phone lines are swamped.

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Wait I'm confused - if you're disabled how can you be available for work? That seems like a contradiction to me. Isn't that fraud or something??

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Darren Brooks

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It's not fraud if you're honest about your restrictions. The issue is whether you're able and available for work within your limitations. Someone with a back injury might not be able to do warehouse work but could still perform office duties.

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Oh ok that makes more sense. I thought disability meant you couldn't work at all.

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Kara Yoshida

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This happened to my brother in law. He was a roofer and hurt his knee. Couldn't do construction anymore but could do other work. Washington ESD approved his unemployment claim as long as he was actively looking for jobs he could physically handle. The job search requirement is still there even with medical restrictions.

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Cynthia Love

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Good to know about the job search requirement. I was wondering if that would be waived with medical restrictions. Did he have to document his limitations somehow?

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Kara Yoshida

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Yeah he had to provide medical documentation from his doctor outlining what he could and couldn't do. ESD wanted specific work restrictions, not just 'injured back' or whatever.

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Philip Cowan

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ugh the washington esd system is so confusing. why cant they just have clear guidelines posted somewhere instead of making everyone call and wait on hold forever???

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Caesar Grant

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Right?? I've been trying to get answers about my claim for weeks and can never reach anyone.

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That's exactly why I ended up using that Claimyr service. Got tired of the runaround and just wanted to talk to a real person at ESD.

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Darren Brooks

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For what it's worth, here's what I understand about the eligibility criteria: You need to demonstrate that despite your medical condition, you remain able and available for work that accommodates your restrictions. This means actively seeking employment within your physical limitations and being willing to accept suitable job offers. The disability determination is separate and based on different criteria entirely.

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Cynthia Love

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This is really helpful. So I should probably start my unemployment claim first and be upfront about my restrictions during the application process?

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Darren Brooks

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Exactly. Transparency is key. Document your work restrictions clearly and make sure your job search reflects jobs you can actually perform with those limitations.

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Lena Schultz

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I tried to do both unemployment and disability last year and it was a mess. The disability office said I couldn't work, but unemployment said I had to be available for work. Ended up having to choose one or the other. Maybe things have changed but just be prepared for potential conflicts between the two systems.

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Cynthia Love

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That sounds like a nightmare. Which one did you end up choosing?

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Lena Schultz

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Went with unemployment because the payments were higher and came faster. Disability takes forever to process and approve.

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Rosie Harper

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One thing to keep in mind - if you do apply for both, make sure your statements are consistent across both applications. Any contradictions between what you tell unemployment versus disability could cause problems with both claims.

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Cynthia Love

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Good point. I definitely don't want to create problems by saying different things to different agencies.

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Gemma Andrews

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My advice would be to consult with someone at WorkSource Washington too. They might have resources or counselors who understand how these programs interact. Plus they can help with the job search requirement if you do qualify for unemployment with restrictions.

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Cynthia Love

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That's a great suggestion. I hadn't thought about WorkSource but they would probably know about accommodations for people with work restrictions.

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Gemma Andrews

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Yeah they deal with this stuff all the time. Much easier than trying to navigate it alone.

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Pedro Sawyer

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Just want to echo what others have said about getting through to ESD by phone. It's absolutely terrible right now. I finally got connected using that Claimyr thing someone mentioned earlier and it was a lifesaver. Talked to an actual ESD adjudicator who cleared up my questions in 10 minutes. Sometimes you just need to bite the bullet and use whatever works.

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Cynthia Love

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At this point I'm willing to try anything. The waiting and uncertainty is driving me crazy.

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Mae Bennett

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Update: I actually called a disability lawyer for a free consultation and they explained the difference pretty well. Unemployment is for people who are temporarily out of work but still able to work. Disability is for people who can't work at all or have significantly reduced capacity. There can be some overlap in certain situations but you have to be very careful about how you present your case to each program.

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Cynthia Love

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A lawyer consultation is a smart idea. Did they charge you for the initial consultation?

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Mae Bennett

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Nope, most disability lawyers do free consultations since they only get paid if you win your case. Even if you don't hire them, they can give you good advice about whether your situation qualifies.

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Whatever you decide, make sure you apply for unemployment right away if you think you might qualify. There's usually a waiting period and you want to get that clock started as soon as possible. You can always withdraw the application later if you decide to go a different route.

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Cynthia Love

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Good point about timing. I've been hesitating because I wasn't sure about the rules, but I should probably just start the process.

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Melina Haruko

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Been following this thread because I'm in a similar boat with a wrist injury. Thanks everyone for sharing your experiences. It's helpful to know I'm not the only one trying to figure this stuff out.

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Cynthia Love

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Yeah it's definitely reassuring to hear from others who've dealt with similar situations. Good luck with your situation!

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Darren Brooks

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Final thought - document everything throughout this process. Keep records of all your medical appointments, work restrictions, job search activities, and communications with both unemployment and disability offices. Having thorough documentation will help if there are any questions or appeals down the road.

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Cynthia Love

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Thanks for all the advice everyone. I'm going to start with the unemployment application and see how it goes. Will update this thread if I learn anything useful.

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Darren Brooks

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Sounds like a good plan. Best of luck with everything!

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Leo McDonald

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I'm new to this community but dealing with a similar situation. I was injured at my manufacturing job and have been out of work for 3 weeks now. My doctor says I can do light duty work but nothing that requires standing for long periods or lifting over 5 pounds. Reading through this thread has been really helpful - I didn't realize you could potentially qualify for unemployment even with work restrictions. Has anyone here had experience with ESD accepting partial work restrictions like mine? I'm worried they'll say I'm not "available for work" even though I could do office jobs or other seated positions.

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