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Sydney Torres

Can you draw unemployment and disability at the same time in Washington state?

I'm really confused about this and need some guidance. I've been on unemployment through Washington ESD for about 6 weeks now, doing my weekly claims and job searches as required. But I'm also dealing with a back injury that's getting worse and my doctor is saying I might need to apply for disability benefits too. Can I collect both unemployment and disability at the same time? I don't want to mess up my UI claim or get in trouble for fraud or anything. Has anyone been in this situation before?

This is actually a really common question and the answer isn't straightforward. Generally speaking, you can't receive both unemployment and disability benefits simultaneously because they have conflicting requirements. For unemployment, you have to certify that you're able and available to work, actively seeking employment, and ready to accept suitable work. Disability benefits are based on your inability to work due to a medical condition.

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That makes sense but what if my injury is getting worse while I'm already on unemployment? Do I have to choose one or the other?

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You'll likely need to choose, but timing matters. If your condition worsens to the point where you can't work, you should report this to Washington ESD and may need to stop filing weekly claims.

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I went through something similar last year! I was on UI and then got hurt at my previous job. The key thing is being honest with Washington ESD about your work capacity. If you can still work with restrictions, you might be able to continue unemployment while exploring disability options. But if you're truly unable to work, you can't keep certifying for weekly claims.

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Did you have any issues transitioning from one to the other? I'm worried about gaps in benefits.

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There was a gap for me, but I was honest about when I could no longer work. Washington ESD actually appreciated the honesty rather than me continuing to file when I shouldn't have.

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You definitely need to speak with someone at Washington ESD about this specific situation. The problem is getting through to them on the phone - I've been trying for weeks about my own adjudication issue. If you're having trouble reaching them, I recently discovered this service called Claimyr (claimyr.com) that helps you get connected to Washington ESD agents. They have a video demo at https://youtu.be/7DieNd3C7zQ showing how it works. Might be worth checking out since you need official guidance on this.

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Thanks for the suggestion! I'll look into that. Have you used it yourself?

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Yes, I used it last week and actually got through to someone at Washington ESD within a few hours instead of spending days redialing.

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Never heard of Claimyr before but if it actually works that would be amazing. The Washington ESD phone system is impossible.

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OMG this is exactly what I'm dealing with right now!! I hurt my shoulder at work 2 months ago and have been on unemployment since I got laid off. Now the workers comp doctor is saying I might need surgery and could be out for months. I'm so stressed about what to do with my UI claim. Did you figure out what you're supposed to report on your weekly claims?

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I haven't figured it out yet, that's why I'm asking here! This is so confusing and I don't want to mess anything up.

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Both of you need to report any changes in your ability to work on your weekly claims. Washington ESD has specific questions about this for a reason.

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The Washington ESD handbook is pretty clear about this - you can't receive unemployment benefits if you're unable to work due to illness or injury. However, if you have a partial disability that doesn't prevent you from working entirely, you might still be eligible for UI while looking for work within your restrictions. The key is the 'able and available' requirement for unemployment.

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Where can I find this handbook? I want to read the exact rules myself.

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You can find it on the Washington ESD website under the claimant handbook section. It goes into detail about work capacity requirements.

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I tried to find that handbook online and it's not easy to locate. The Washington ESD website is so confusing to navigate.

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This whole system is ridiculous. People get hurt and then have to choose between benefits that don't even cover their basic needs. I've been fighting with Washington ESD for months over different issues and they make everything so complicated.

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I feel you on this. The bureaucracy is insane.

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It is frustrating but I just need to know what the actual rules are so I can follow them correctly.

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Here's what you need to know specifically: If you apply for disability benefits (either Social Security Disability or state disability), you're essentially stating that you cannot work. This directly contradicts the unemployment certification where you state you're able and available for work. Most states, including Washington, will not allow you to collect both simultaneously.

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What if I'm not sure yet if I'll qualify for disability? Can I keep filing unemployment while I explore that option?

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As long as you can honestly answer yes to being able and available for work on your weekly claims, you can continue filing. But once you determine you can't work, you need to stop.

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I work with people on disability issues and see this confusion all the time. The timing of when you stop unemployment and when you apply for disability can affect your eligibility for both programs. There are also different types of disability - temporary vs permanent, workers comp vs SSDI, etc. Each has different rules about other benefits.

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This is getting really complicated. Should I talk to a lawyer or someone who specializes in this?

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For complex cases involving multiple benefit types, consulting with a disability attorney or benefits specialist can be helpful, especially if there's a workers comp component.

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Been there done that. Had to stop my unemployment when I couldn't work anymore due to my condition. The gap between stopping UI and getting approved for disability was rough financially but it was the right thing to do legally. Don't try to game the system - it will catch up with you.

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I definitely don't want to game anything, I just want to make sure I'm following the rules correctly. How long was your gap between benefits?

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About 3 months for me, but disability applications can take much longer. That's why it's important to get the process started early if you think you might need it.

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The real issue here is that Washington ESD doesn't make this stuff clear. I've been trying to get answers about my own claim complications and the phone system is a joke. At least there are services like Claimyr now that can help you actually reach someone when you need official guidance on these complex situations.

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Yeah, I'm definitely going to try that service mentioned earlier. I really need to talk to someone official about this.

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Claimyr really does work - saved me hours of redialing Washington ESD. Worth it for situations like this where you need authoritative answers.

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Just want to add that if you're receiving workers compensation benefits, that's different from regular disability and has its own rules about unemployment. Workers comp is for workplace injuries and might have different interaction rules with UI benefits. Make sure you're clear about which type of disability you're dealing with.

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Mine might be workers comp related since the injury started at my old job. Does that change things?

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Yes, workers comp has different rules. You definitely need to speak with Washington ESD about your specific situation since it involves a workplace injury.

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whatever you do dont lie on your weekly claims about being able to work if you really cant. they will find out eventually and then youll owe back all the money plus penalties. i seen it happen to people

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Definitely don't want to risk that. I'm just trying to figure out the right thing to do while I'm in this gray area.

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The bottom line is this: unemployment requires you to be able and available for work. Disability benefits are for when you can't work. You generally can't be both simultaneously. However, there can be transition periods and special circumstances, which is why you need to speak directly with Washington ESD about your specific medical situation and work capacity.

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This makes the most sense to me. I think I need to have an honest conversation with my doctor about my work capacity and then contact Washington ESD with that information.

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That's exactly the right approach. Get medical clarity first, then communicate with Washington ESD about your situation.

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I had a similar situation couple years ago. What helped me was getting a detailed statement from my doctor about exactly what I could and couldn't do work-wise. That way I could be specific with Washington ESD about my limitations and whether I could still meet the able and available requirement.

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That's a great idea. I'll ask my doctor to be specific about work restrictions at my next appointment.

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Just remember that Washington ESD takes the 'able and available' requirement seriously. If you can work with restrictions, you might still qualify for UI while looking for suitable work within those restrictions. But if you truly can't work at all, you can't continue filing weekly claims.

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I think I understand now. It really comes down to whether I can still work in some capacity or not.

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From my experience dealing with this exact situation, timing is everything. Don't wait until you're completely unable to work to start exploring disability options, but also don't continue filing unemployment claims if you know you can't work. Be proactive and honest throughout the process.

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Thanks for all the advice everyone. I think my next steps are clear: talk to my doctor about work capacity, then contact Washington ESD to discuss my specific situation.

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Good plan! And remember, if you need help getting through to Washington ESD, that Claimyr service is there as an option. Good luck with everything!

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One more thing to consider - if you do transition from unemployment to disability, make sure you understand the implications for your job search requirements and any work search waivers you might need during the transition period.

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I hadn't thought about the job search requirements during a transition. That's another good question to ask Washington ESD.

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This thread has been really helpful. I'm dealing with a similar situation with a different medical condition. It's good to know I'm not the only one confused about how these benefits interact with each other. The key seems to be getting proper medical documentation and being upfront with Washington ESD.

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Glad this helped you too! It definitely seems like honesty and documentation are the most important things.

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Exactly right. The system works better when people are transparent about their situations rather than trying to work around the rules.

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