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Sophie Hernandez

Can you collect unemployment if you get fired in Washington ESD?

Got terminated from my job yesterday and I'm freaking out about money. My manager said it was due to performance issues but I think it was really because I had to take time off for my kid's medical appointments. Can I still file for unemployment benefits with Washington ESD if I got fired? I keep reading conflicting info online and I'm scared they'll deny my claim automatically.

Yes you can file for unemployment even if you were fired, but it depends on WHY you were fired. Washington ESD looks at whether you were terminated for misconduct or just poor performance. Performance issues usually don't disqualify you, but misconduct like stealing or fighting does.

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That's a relief. They said performance but I honestly think it was discrimination. Should I mention that when I file my claim?

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Be honest but stick to facts. If you have documentation about the discrimination, keep it for potential appeals. Washington ESD will contact your employer to get their side of the story.

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File ASAP! Even if you're not sure if you qualify, it's better to apply and let Washington ESD decide. You can always appeal if they deny you initially. The worst thing you can do is wait and lose potential benefits.

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How long does it usually take to hear back from them?

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Usually 2-3 weeks for a decision if there's no issues. But if they need to investigate the firing, it could go into adjudication which takes longer.

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I was in a similar situation last year. Got fired for 'attendance issues' but it was really because I was dealing with a family emergency. Filed anyway and got approved. Washington ESD was pretty reasonable about it. The key is being honest about what happened and providing any documentation you have.

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Did you have to do anything special during the application process?

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Just answered all the questions honestly. They asked about why I left the job and I explained the situation. Took about 3 weeks but I got approved.

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I've heard good things about Claimyr too. Friend of mine used it when her claim got stuck in adjudication.

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The whole system is rigged against workers anyway. They'll find any excuse to deny your claim even if you deserve it. File but don't get your hopes up too high.

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That's not really helpful. The system isn't perfect but most legitimate claims do get approved eventually.

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Tell that to the thousands of people who got denied for bogus reasons. Washington ESD is more concerned about protecting employers than helping workers.

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Make sure you have all your employment info ready when you file - dates of employment, wage info, reason for separation. And start keeping a job search log right away because you'll need to show you're actively looking for work.

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How many jobs do I need to apply for each week?

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Usually 3 job contacts per week in Washington. But check the current requirements when you file because they can change.

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same thing happened to me got fired for being late too many times but it was cause my car kept breaking down and i couldnt afford to fix it. filed anyway and got approved so dont worry too much about it

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That gives me hope. Did they ask a lot of questions about why you were late?

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not really just had to explain the situation they were pretty understanding about it

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Important distinction - there's a difference between being fired for misconduct vs. being laid off or terminated for non-misconduct reasons. Misconduct is things like theft, violence, or willful disregard of company rules. Poor performance, inability to do the job, or even attendance issues usually don't qualify as misconduct.

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So missing work for medical appointments wouldn't be misconduct?

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Generally no, especially if you had legitimate medical reasons. But document everything just in case.

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One more thing - when you file, you'll need to register with WorkSourceWA too. It's required for keeping your benefits active. Don't skip this step or they might hold up your payments.

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Is that a separate website or part of the Washington ESD application?

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Separate site but they'll give you instructions when you file your claim. It's worksourcewa.com

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Don't let the fear of getting denied stop you from filing. Even if your employer contests it, you can appeal and often win. I've seen people get approved on appeal even when they were initially denied.

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How long do appeals take?

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Usually 4-6 weeks but can be longer depending on their backlog. The key is to file the appeal within 30 days of getting the denial.

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File online at secure.esd.wa.gov if you haven't already. The online system is usually faster than calling or mailing stuff in.

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Thanks, I'll do that today.

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My sister got fired for supposedly being rude to customers but she thinks it was retaliation for complaining about her supervisor. She filed for unemployment and got approved. Washington ESD seems to give people the benefit of the doubt if the employer can't prove actual misconduct.

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That's encouraging. I hope they see through my employer's excuse too.

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Yeah, document everything and be honest. The truth usually comes out during their investigation.

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Just to follow up on the Claimyr thing - I know it sounds like an ad but I'm just sharing what worked for me. When my claim got stuck and I couldn't reach anyone at Washington ESD, that service literally saved me weeks of frustration. Worth checking out if you run into phone issues.

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I'll definitely keep that in mind if I can't get through. Thanks for the tip.

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Quick tip - when you file your weekly claims, be completely honest about any work you do or money you earn. Even small amounts need to be reported. Better to be honest and get reduced benefits than to hide something and get disqualified later.

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Good point. I might do some gig work while I'm looking for a new job.

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That's fine, just report all earnings. They'll adjust your benefits accordingly but you won't get in trouble for working part-time.

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I'm dealing with something similar right now. Got fired last month and my claim is still in adjudication. It's nerve-wracking but I'm trying to stay positive. At least I know I can file even though I was terminated.

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How long has your adjudication been going on?

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About 3 weeks now. I heard it can take up to 6 weeks depending on how complicated the case is.

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One last thing - keep records of everything. Save emails, write down dates of conversations, keep copies of your termination paperwork. If you end up having to appeal, having good documentation makes a huge difference.

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I wish I had kept better records while I was working there. I'll start documenting everything from now on.

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It's not too late. Write down everything you remember about the termination while it's fresh in your mind.

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Been there, done that. Got fired for 'insubordination' which was really just me standing up for myself against a toxic boss. Filed anyway and got my benefits. Don't let them intimidate you out of filing.

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That's exactly what I'm dealing with. Toxic workplace but they're making it sound like it was my fault.

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Stand your ground. Washington ESD will investigate and usually the truth comes out.

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Filing for unemployment was the best decision I made after getting fired. Even though it was stressful waiting for approval, I'm glad I didn't let fear stop me from applying. You deserve those benefits if you're eligible.

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Thanks for the encouragement. I needed to hear that.

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Don't forget about the waiting week. Even if you get approved, there's usually a one-week waiting period before benefits start. Plan your budget accordingly.

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Good to know. I'll have to stretch my savings a bit longer then.

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Yeah, it's frustrating but just part of the process. The benefits will be backdated to when you filed though.

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Whatever you do, don't quit your next job without having another one lined up. It's much harder to get unemployment if you quit voluntarily, even if you have good reasons.

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Definitely learned that lesson. I'll be more careful about job security going forward.

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