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Dmitry Petrov

Can a fired employee get unemployment benefits through Washington ESD?

I got terminated from my job last Friday and I'm trying to figure out if I can even apply for unemployment benefits. My manager said I was let go for 'performance issues' but honestly I think it was more about company budget cuts. I've been working there for 2 years and never had any formal write-ups or warnings. Does Washington ESD approve unemployment claims for people who were fired? I'm really stressed about this because I have rent due next week and I don't know if I should even bother applying if they're just going to deny me automatically.

Yes, you can definitely apply for unemployment even if you were fired! Washington ESD doesn't automatically deny claims for terminated employees. What matters is WHY you were fired. If it was for misconduct, that's different than performance issues or budget cuts. Since you mentioned no formal warnings, that actually works in your favor during the adjudication process.

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That's really helpful to know! I was worried they'd just see 'terminated' and reject me right away. Should I mention that I think it was really about budget cuts when I file my claim?

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Absolutely mention any budget concerns you were aware of. Be honest about the performance issues they cited but also include context about company financial situation. Washington ESD looks at the whole picture during adjudication.

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I went through this exact situation last year. Got fired for 'attendance issues' but I had been dealing with a family emergency. Washington ESD approved my claim after about 3 weeks of adjudication. The key is being completely honest in your application and providing any documentation you have. Do you have any emails or texts from your manager about the termination?

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I have the termination letter they gave me but it's pretty vague. Just says performance issues and lists my last day. Nothing specific about what I supposedly did wrong.

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That vague language actually helps your case! If they can't be specific about misconduct, Washington ESD usually sides with the employee. Make sure to keep that letter for your records.

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Been trying to get through to Washington ESD for weeks about my own claim status. Their phone lines are absolutely impossible. I've called hundreds of times and either get busy signals or get hung up on after waiting for hours. Anyone have tips for actually reaching a human there?

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Interesting, I'll check that out. At this point I'm willing to try anything to get through to them. Thanks for the tip!

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WASHINGTON ESD ALWAYS SIDES WITH THE EMPLOYER!!! I got fired for being 5 minutes late ONE TIME and they denied my claim. The whole system is rigged against workers. Don't get your hopes up because they'll just find some excuse to deny you.

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That's not accurate at all. Washington ESD approves thousands of claims from terminated employees every month. Being late once isn't usually considered misconduct unless there's a pattern of attendance issues. Did you appeal their decision?

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I tried to appeal but couldn't get through to anyone on the phone to understand the process. Gave up after a month of trying.

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This is where Claimyr really helps - they can get you connected to the right department for appeals too. Worth looking into if you want to pursue it.

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The most important thing is to apply RIGHT AWAY. Don't wait thinking you won't qualify. Washington ESD has a waiting period anyway, so the sooner you file, the sooner you can start receiving benefits if approved. Even if you're not sure about eligibility, let them make that determination.

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Good point, I'll file today. Better to try and get denied than not try at all. Do I need any specific documents to file online?

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You'll need your Social Security number, employment history for the past 18 months, and details about your termination. The Washington ESD website walks you through everything step by step.

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My cousin got fired from his warehouse job for 'safety violations' but it was really because he complained about working conditions. Washington ESD approved his claim because the company couldn't prove he actually did anything dangerous. Sometimes what employers call 'misconduct' isn't actually misconduct under Washington ESD rules.

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That's encouraging to hear. I never got in trouble for safety issues or anything serious like that. Hopefully they'll see my situation the same way.

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Yeah, performance issues are very different from safety violations or theft. You should be fine as long as you're honest about everything.

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I'm going through adjudication right now for the same thing. Got fired for 'not meeting expectations' but I think it was really about them downsizing. Been waiting 2 weeks for a decision. The uncertainty is killing me but at least I know it's possible to get approved.

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How long did they say the adjudication process would take? I'm worried about how long I'll be without income.

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They said 4-6 weeks typically, but could be longer if they need to contact your former employer. Make sure you keep filing your weekly claims even during adjudication.

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That's crucial advice - keep filing weekly claims during adjudication or you'll lose those weeks even if approved later.

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What kind of performance issues did they cite? That makes a big difference in how Washington ESD will view your case. If it's stuff like missing deadlines vs. showing up drunk, those are totally different situations.

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They said I wasn't meeting productivity targets and had some customer complaints. Nothing about behavior or attendance really. Just work quality stuff.

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Work quality issues without misconduct are usually approvable. Sounds like you have a good chance of getting approved.

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Whatever you do, don't lie on your application. Washington ESD will find out if you're not truthful about why you were fired. Be honest about the performance issues but also explain your side of the story. They want to hear both perspectives.

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Absolutely, I plan to be completely honest. I'd rather be denied for telling the truth than get in trouble for lying.

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Smart approach. Washington ESD fraud penalties are serious, so honesty is always the best policy even if it means a longer adjudication process.

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I got approved after being fired for 'insubordination' because I refused to work overtime without pay. Washington ESD said that wasn't actually insubordination since I was protecting my legal rights. Don't assume the employer's version of events is how Washington ESD will see it.

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That's really good to know. I was worried that any reason they give for firing would automatically disqualify me.

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Nope, Washington ESD has pretty specific definitions of misconduct. Performance issues usually don't meet that standard unless there's willful disregard of company policies.

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Make sure you have all your paystubs and employment records ready. Washington ESD might ask for documentation during the adjudication process. Also keep track of any job search activities you do while waiting for approval.

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Do I need to start job searching right away even if my claim is still being processed?

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Yes, you need to be actively seeking work from the day you file your claim. Washington ESD requires job search activities for every week you claim benefits.

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You need to register with WorkSource Washington and complete at least 3 job search activities per week. Keep detailed records of everything.

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The employer can contest your claim, just so you know. If they do, that's when the real adjudication process starts. They'll interview both you and your former employer to get the full story. Don't panic if this happens - it's pretty normal.

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What happens if they contest it? Does that mean I definitely won't get benefits?

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Not at all. Contested claims get reviewed more thoroughly, but plenty of people win contested cases. Just means the process takes longer.

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I had to use Claimyr twice during my unemployment claim process. Once to check on my adjudication status and once to resolve an issue with my job search requirements. Both times they got me through to the right person at Washington ESD within minutes instead of me spending hours on hold.

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That sounds really helpful. I'm definitely going to keep their contact info handy in case I run into problems.

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Yeah, it's worth having as a backup plan. Washington ESD phone system is notoriously difficult to navigate.

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File your claim this weekend if possible. The sooner you get it in, the sooner your waiting week starts. Even if you're not sure about eligibility, there's no harm in applying and letting Washington ESD make the determination.

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Planning to file today actually. Thanks for the encouragement - I was really on the fence about whether it was worth trying.

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Definitely worth trying. Worst case they deny it and you're in the same position you're in now. Best case you get approved and have income while job searching.

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One thing to keep in mind is that even if you get denied initially, you can appeal the decision. The appeals process gives you another chance to present your case with more documentation and evidence.

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How long do you have to file an appeal if you get denied?

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You have 30 days from the date of the determination letter to file an appeal. Don't wait until the last minute though - start the process as soon as you get a denial.

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The fact that you had no formal write-ups is huge in your favor. Washington ESD looks for patterns of misconduct, not isolated incidents. Performance issues without prior warnings usually don't rise to the level of disqualifying misconduct.

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That makes me feel a lot better. I was worried that any criticism of my work would automatically disqualify me.

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Nope, there's a big difference between poor performance and misconduct. Misconduct has to be willful and substantial to disqualify someone from benefits.

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Just wanted to add that you should keep all communication from your former employer about the termination. Even if it seems minor, it could be important evidence if your claim gets contested or if you need to appeal.

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I've got the termination letter and a few emails leading up to it. I'll make sure to save everything.

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Good thinking. Documentation is key in unemployment cases. The more evidence you have, the better your chances.

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Update us on how it goes! Always good to hear success stories to help other people in similar situations. Sounds like you have a solid case based on what you've described.

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Will do! Filing my claim this afternoon. Thanks everyone for all the helpful advice and encouragement. This thread has been incredibly helpful.

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Good luck! Remember to keep filing those weekly claims even during adjudication. Hope everything works out for you.

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And don't hesitate to use Claimyr if you need to reach Washington ESD quickly. Sometimes having that direct connection makes all the difference.

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