If I'm fired can I get unemployment benefits through Washington ESD?
My supervisor terminated me yesterday after what they called 'performance issues' but I think it was really because I couldn't work the overtime they wanted due to my kid's daycare schedule. I've been at this warehouse job for 8 months and never had any written warnings or formal disciplinary actions. Can I still file for unemployment benefits with Washington ESD even though I was fired? I'm really stressed about paying rent next month and need to know if I should even bother applying or if being fired automatically disqualifies me.
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Asher Levin
You can definitely apply for unemployment even if you were fired. Washington ESD will investigate whether your termination was for 'misconduct' or not. If it was just performance issues or attendance problems that weren't willful misconduct, you'll likely qualify. The key is whether your employer can prove you deliberately violated company policy or were negligent on purpose.
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Haley Stokes
•That's really helpful to know! Since I never got any written warnings, does that help my case? They just said I wasn't meeting productivity standards but I was trying my best.
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Asher Levin
•Yes, the lack of progressive discipline definitely helps your case. Document everything you remember about the termination conversation and any performance discussions you had.
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Serene Snow
File your claim ASAP! Even if Washington ESD initially denies you, you can appeal. I was fired from my retail job last year for being late too many times (my car kept breaking down) and I thought I was screwed. Turns out I qualified because the tardiness wasn't considered willful misconduct since I was actively trying to get to work and it was due to circumstances beyond my control.
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Haley Stokes
•How long did the whole process take for you? I'm worried about the gap in income while they decide.
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Serene Snow
•It took about 3 weeks total. The initial decision came back pretty quick, then I had to do a phone interview with an adjudicator. They approved me after that call.
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Issac Nightingale
•Three weeks isn't bad at all. I've been waiting 6 weeks for my adjudication to finish and still nothing.
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Romeo Barrett
Just went through this exact situation myself. Got terminated for 'not being a good fit' after 4 months at an office job. Was scared to apply thinking being fired meant automatic disqualification. Washington ESD approved my claim within 2 weeks. The adjudicator said termination for poor performance usually doesn't count as misconduct unless there's clear evidence you were deliberately not doing your job. I'd been trying but just wasn't catching on fast enough to their systems.
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Haley Stokes
•This gives me so much hope! Did your employer contest your claim or did they just let it go through?
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Romeo Barrett
•They didn't contest it at all. I think they knew they didn't have much of a case since they never gave me any formal warnings either.
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Marina Hendrix
Don't let anyone tell you that being fired automatically disqualifies you - that's one of the biggest myths about unemployment. Washington ESD looks at the specific reasons for termination. Performance issues, lack of skills, personality conflicts, or economic reasons usually qualify you for benefits. What disqualifies you is stuff like theft, violence, deliberate insubordination, or repeatedly violating clear company policies after warnings.
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Haley Stokes
•Thank you for breaking that down! I definitely didn't do any of those disqualifying things. Just couldn't keep up with their unrealistic productivity expectations.
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Justin Trejo
•This is so important for people to know. I delayed filing for 2 months thinking I couldn't get unemployment after being fired. Cost me thousands in benefits I was entitled to.
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Alana Willis
I'm dealing with something similar right now - got fired 3 weeks ago and my Washington ESD claim has been stuck in adjudication hell ever since. Can't get through to anyone on the phone no matter how many times I call. The automated system just hangs up on me after being on hold for hours. Anyone know a better way to reach them?
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Serene Snow
•Have you tried calling right when they open at 8am? That's usually the best time to get through.
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Alana Willis
•I've tried that multiple times but still can't get past the automated system. It's incredibly frustrating when you need answers about your claim.
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Tyler Murphy
•I was having the same problem until someone told me about Claimyr. It's a service that helps you get through to Washington ESD agents. I used it last week and actually got to talk to a real person who explained exactly what was happening with my adjudication. Check out claimyr.com - they have a video demo at https://youtu.be/7DieNd3C7zQ that shows how it works.
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Haley Stokes
Update: I filed my claim this morning after reading all your advice. The online application was pretty straightforward. Now I'm just waiting to see what happens. Fingers crossed! Thanks everyone for the encouragement.
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Asher Levin
•Good for you! Make sure to keep filing your weekly claims even while the adjudication is pending. You'll get backpay if approved.
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Haley Stokes
•Will do! I already set a reminder in my phone to file every Sunday.
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Sara Unger
The system is so confusing though. I got fired 2 months ago for supposedly violating safety protocols but I was never trained properly on those protocols. Washington ESD initially denied my claim saying it was misconduct. I'm appealing but have no idea how that process works or what to expect.
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Asher Levin
•For your appeal, you'll need to document that you weren't properly trained. Gather any emails, training records, or witness statements that show the lack of adequate training. The appeal hearing will give you a chance to tell your side of the story.
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Sara Unger
•That's helpful advice. I do have some emails where I asked for additional training that were ignored. Should I include those?
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Asher Levin
•Absolutely! Those emails are perfect evidence that you were trying to do the job correctly and weren't being willfully negligent.
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Butch Sledgehammer
Been through this 3 times in my career unfortunately. Each time I was worried about being fired affecting my unemployment eligibility. What I learned is that Washington ESD really does investigate each case individually. They don't just rubber stamp denials for people who were terminated. As long as you were making a good faith effort to do your job, you'll probably qualify.
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Haley Stokes
•Three times? That must have been stressful each time. Did you ever have an employer contest your claim?
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Butch Sledgehammer
•Only once, and I still won the appeal because they couldn't prove I was deliberately underperforming. The other two times the employers didn't even respond to Washington ESD's inquiry.
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Freya Ross
Quick question - if I get approved for unemployment after being fired, does that go on some kind of record that future employers can see? I'm worried about how this might affect job applications.
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Marina Hendrix
•No, your unemployment claim history is confidential. Future employers can't access that information unless you tell them. The only exception is if they specifically ask about receiving unemployment benefits on an application.
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Freya Ross
•That's a relief! I was worried this would follow me around forever.
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Leslie Parker
The whole misconduct standard is really employer-friendly in my opinion. I got denied initially because my boss claimed I was 'insubordinate' for questioning a policy that seemed illegal. Had to go through a whole appeal process to prove I was acting in good faith. Eventually won but it took 2 months total.
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Sergio Neal
•Two months is way too long to wait for benefits when you're unemployed. The system needs to be faster.
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Leslie Parker
•Completely agree. The financial stress during that waiting period was awful.
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Savanna Franklin
Just to add another perspective - I was fired for attendance issues due to my chronic illness and still qualified for unemployment. Washington ESD understood that my absences were due to circumstances beyond my control. So even attendance-related terminations aren't automatic disqualifications if there are legitimate reasons.
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Haley Stokes
•That's really good to know. It sounds like Washington ESD does try to look at the whole situation rather than just the surface reason for firing.
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Savanna Franklin
•Exactly. They asked detailed questions about my medical situation and accommodations I'd requested. The process was thorough but fair.
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Juan Moreno
One thing to keep in mind is that even if you qualify, your weekly benefit amount will be based on your wages from the past year. Make sure all your employers are correctly reported in your claim so you get the maximum amount you're entitled to.
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Haley Stokes
•Good point! I had a part-time job earlier this year that I almost forgot to include. Thanks for the reminder.
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Amy Fleming
Does anyone know if Washington ESD considers it misconduct if you're fired for not meeting sales quotas? I worked at a dealership and just couldn't hit their numbers consistently, even though I was trying hard and following all their sales processes.
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Marina Hendrix
•Generally no, not meeting sales quotas isn't considered misconduct unless you were deliberately sabotaging sales or not following procedures. Poor performance due to lack of ability or market conditions usually qualifies you for benefits.
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Amy Fleming
•That's reassuring. The market was really tough this year and a lot of salespeople were struggling to hit targets.
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Alice Pierce
I was fired from a restaurant job for supposedly being rude to customers, but I think the manager just didn't like me. Customer complaints were never documented and I never received any coaching. Still nervous about applying for unemployment though.
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Asher Levin
•The lack of documentation definitely helps your case. Washington ESD will look for evidence of the misconduct, and if your employer can't provide specific incidents or progressive discipline records, that weakens their position.
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Alice Pierce
•I'm going to apply then. Worst case they deny me and I can appeal, right?
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Asher Levin
•Exactly. You have nothing to lose by applying, and appeal rights if the initial decision doesn't go your way.
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Esteban Tate
The adjudication process can be nerve-wracking but it's really about gathering facts. When I was fired for supposedly violating company policy, the Washington ESD adjudicator asked both me and my employer very specific questions about what happened, what policies were involved, and what training I'd received. They were very thorough and fair in their investigation.
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Haley Stokes
•That makes me feel better about the process. I was worried it would be biased toward the employer.
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Esteban Tate
•In my experience, Washington ESD adjudicators are pretty neutral. They're just trying to determine the facts and apply the law correctly.
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Ivanna St. Pierre
If you do get into an adjudication situation, I highly recommend using Claimyr to speak with Washington ESD directly about your case. I was stuck in adjudication for weeks without any updates, used their service, and finally got to talk to someone who explained exactly what documents they were waiting for. Cleared everything up in one phone call that I never would have gotten through to on my own.
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Alana Willis
•I've been thinking about trying Claimyr too. The regular phone system is just impossible to get through.
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Ivanna St. Pierre
•It was worth it for me. Finally getting real answers about my claim status was such a relief after weeks of uncertainty.
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Elin Robinson
Bottom line - don't assume you're disqualified just because you were fired. The unemployment system exists to help people who lose their jobs through no fault of their own, and that includes many people who are terminated. File your claim and let Washington ESD make the determination based on the facts of your specific situation.
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Haley Stokes
•This whole thread has been incredibly helpful. I feel so much more confident about my situation now. Thank you all!
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Atticus Domingo
•Glad this helped you! These kinds of discussions are so valuable because there's so much misinformation out there about unemployment eligibility.
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