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Chloe Wilson

Can you apply for Washington ESD unemployment if you get fired from your job?

I just got terminated from my warehouse job yesterday for what my supervisor called 'performance issues' but I honestly think it was unfair. My manager never gave me proper training and kept changing my schedule without notice. I've been working for 8 months and this is my first time dealing with unemployment. Can I still apply for Washington ESD benefits even though I was fired? I'm really stressed about paying my rent next month and don't know what my options are.

Yes you can definitely apply! Being fired doesn't automatically disqualify you from unemployment benefits in Washington. The key is whether you were fired for 'misconduct' or not. Performance issues usually aren't considered misconduct unless you were deliberately not doing your job.

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That's a relief to hear. How do I know if what they fired me for counts as misconduct?

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Misconduct has to be willful or deliberate violation of company policy. Poor performance, inability to do the job, or personality conflicts usually don't count as misconduct.

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File your claim ASAP through the Washington ESD website. Even if your employer disputes it, you can still receive benefits while the adjudication process happens. I was fired from my retail job last year for being late too many times and still got approved.

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How long did the adjudication take for your case?

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About 3 weeks, but that was pretty typical. Just make sure you keep filing your weekly claims even during adjudication.

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When you file, be completely honest about the circumstances of your termination. Washington ESD will contact your employer anyway, so don't try to hide anything. Focus on explaining your side - the lack of training, schedule changes, etc. Document everything you can remember.

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This is solid advice. I made the mistake of not being detailed enough in my initial claim and it caused delays.

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Should I mention that other employees have complained about this same manager?

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Yes, absolutely include that context. It helps show a pattern of poor management rather than your individual performance.

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I was in a similar situation last month - got fired for 'attendance issues' but it was really because I had to take my kid to medical appointments. Couldn't get through to Washington ESD for weeks trying to check my claim status. Finally found this service called Claimyr (claimyr.com) that actually got me connected to a real person at ESD. There's a demo video at https://youtu.be/7DieNd3C7zQ that shows how it works.

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How much does that service cost? I'm already tight on money.

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It's worth it when you consider how much time you save not sitting on hold for hours. I was able to get my adjudication questions answered directly instead of waiting weeks.

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Never heard of Claimyr but anything that helps you actually talk to ESD sounds useful. The phone system is impossible.

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ugh the whole system is so frustrating!! i got fired 2 months ago and STILL waiting for my benefits. they keep asking for more documentation and every time i call i get disconnected

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That sounds horrible. What kind of documentation are they asking for?

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pay stubs, termination letter, work schedules... feels like they want my whole life story

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Make sure you're uploading documents through your SecureAccess Washington account. Mailing stuff takes forever.

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Just to clarify some terminology - when Washington ESD reviews your case, it's called 'adjudication.' This happens when there's a question about your eligibility, like when you're fired. Don't panic if your claim goes into adjudication status, it's normal for termination cases.

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What's the difference between adjudication and an appeal?

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Adjudication happens before any decision is made. An appeal is when you disagree with ESD's decision and want them to reconsider.

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Good to know the difference. Hopefully I won't need to appeal anything.

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One important thing - start your job search immediately even if you're confident about getting benefits. Washington has work search requirements where you need to make at least 3 job contacts per week and register with WorkSource. Keep detailed records of your job search activities.

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Do I need to start the job search before my claim is approved?

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Yes, the work search requirement starts with your first week of filing, not when you're approved.

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The WorkSource registration is required too. Don't skip that step or it can delay your benefits.

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I work in HR and see these cases all the time. 'Performance issues' is pretty vague language that employers use when they don't have clear misconduct. Your employer will need to provide specific examples of policy violations to deny your claim. Most performance-related terminations result in approved benefits.

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That's reassuring coming from someone in HR. My termination letter just says 'failure to meet performance standards.

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That's exactly the kind of vague language that usually doesn't hold up as misconduct. Document your side of the story thoroughly.

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File online at esd.wa.gov, it's way faster than calling. You'll need your Social Security number, driver's license, and employment info for the last 18 months. The system will walk you through everything step by step.

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Do I need tax documents or just basic employment info?

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Just basic info - employer names, addresses, dates worked, and reason for separation. They'll verify wages through their system.

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Whatever you do, don't wait to file thinking you might find another job quickly. There's a waiting period anyway, and if you find work you can just stop filing claims. But if you wait too long to file initially, you lose out on potential benefits.

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How long is the waiting period?

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One week waiting period for all new claims. It's just how the system works.

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And that waiting period starts from when you file, not when you were terminated.

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Been through this before - got canned for 'insubordination' which was really just me questioning unsafe work practices. Won my case because I had documentation of the safety concerns I raised. The key is having your side of the story ready with any evidence you can gather.

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I wish I had documented more of the training issues while they were happening.

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Even write down what you remember now with dates if possible. Every detail helps during adjudication.

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My cousin used that Claimyr thing someone mentioned earlier and said it was a game changer. She was stuck in adjudication limbo for a month and couldn't get anyone at ESD on the phone. Used their service and got connected within a day to sort out her issues.

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I might have to try that if I can't get through to ESD myself.

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Same here, the regular ESD phone system is basically useless. You call 100 times and maybe get through once.

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Quick question - if they fired you, do you still get your final paycheck? Because that might affect when you can start collecting benefits.

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Yeah I got my final check but it was just for the days I worked that week.

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Final pay doesn't usually affect benefit timing unless it includes vacation payout or severance.

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File this week! Don't overthink it. The worst they can say is no, and then you can appeal if needed. But based on what you described, performance issues without clear misconduct usually qualify for benefits.

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You're right, I need to stop worrying and just file the claim.

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Exactly! And file your weekly claims every week even if you're in adjudication. You can't get back pay for weeks you didn't file.

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Last tip - when you do your phone interview (if they schedule one), be professional and stick to the facts. Don't badmouth your employer but do explain your side clearly. The ESD adjudicator just wants to understand what really happened.

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Thanks everyone for all the advice. I'm going to file my claim tonight and hope for the best.

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Good luck! Most people in your situation end up getting approved, so try not to stress too much about it.

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Keep us posted on how it goes! This thread will help other people in similar situations.

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