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Can I file for unemployment if I got fired from my job in Washington?

I just got terminated from my warehouse job last week after working there for 8 months. My supervisor said it was due to 'performance issues' but I feel like they never gave me proper training or clear expectations. I'm really stressed about money and need to know if I can still file for Washington ESD unemployment benefits even though I was fired? I've never been on unemployment before and don't know how this works. Will they automatically deny me because I got fired instead of laid off?

Yes, you can absolutely file for unemployment benefits in Washington even if you were fired. The key is whether you were terminated for 'misconduct' or not. Performance issues usually don't count as misconduct unless you were willfully negligent or violated company policies. You should file your claim right away since there's a waiting period, and Washington ESD will investigate your termination during the adjudication process.

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That's a relief to hear! How long does the adjudication process usually take? I'm worried about paying rent next month.

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Adjudication can take anywhere from 2-6 weeks depending on how busy Washington ESD is. They'll contact both you and your former employer to get both sides of the story before making a decision.

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File immediately! I got fired from my retail job for being late too many times and still got approved for UI benefits. The important thing is to be honest about why you were terminated when you file your claim. Washington ESD looks at whether your actions were deliberate misconduct or just poor performance.

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Really? I thought any firing would disqualify you automatically. This gives me hope for my situation too.

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Nope, that's a common misconception. Even some policy violations can still qualify you for benefits if they weren't serious enough to be considered misconduct.

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I had such a hard time getting through to Washington ESD when I needed to check on my claim status after being fired. The phone lines are always busy and I kept getting disconnected. I finally used Claimyr.com to get through to an actual agent who explained my adjudication process. They have a video demo at https://youtu.be/7DieNd3C7zQ that shows how it works. Made the whole process so much less stressful.

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Thanks for the tip! I'll definitely look into that if I have trouble reaching Washington ESD directly.

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I've heard of Claimyr but never tried it. Does it actually work better than calling the regular number?

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Way better in my experience. No more sitting on hold for hours or getting hung up on. The agent I spoke with was really knowledgeable about the adjudication process too.

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The Washington ESD system is so confusing! I got fired from my last job for attendance issues and was terrified to apply thinking I'd be automatically rejected. Turns out chronic lateness isn't always considered misconduct if there were legitimate reasons. You really need to file and let them make the determination.

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What kind of legitimate reasons did you have? I'm wondering if my lack of proper training could be considered a factor.

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In my case it was transportation issues and some family emergencies. The adjudicator said since I wasn't willfully trying to harm the company, it didn't rise to the level of misconduct.

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whatever you do dont lie about why you got fired!!! washington esd will find out when they contact your employer and then you'll be in real trouble. just be honest and explain your side of the story

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Definitely planning to be completely honest. I'm just worried my employer will make it sound worse than it was.

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That's exactly why there's an adjudication process - Washington ESD gets both sides and makes an impartial decision based on the facts.

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File online at esd.wa.gov as soon as possible. Even if you get denied initially, you can always appeal the decision. I know someone who got fired for poor performance and won their appeal because the employer couldn't prove it was willful misconduct.

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Good to know appeals are an option if needed. How long do you have to file an appeal?

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You have 30 days from the date of the determination notice to file an appeal with Washington ESD.

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I'm dealing with something similar right now. Got fired three weeks ago and my claim has been in adjudication ever since. The waiting is killing me financially but at least I know there's still a chance for approval.

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Three weeks is a long time to wait! Have you tried calling to check on the status?

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I've tried calling Washington ESD dozens of times but can never get through. Might have to try that Claimyr thing someone mentioned earlier.

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Just want to emphasize again - performance issues are very different from misconduct in Washington ESD's eyes. If you were trying to do your job but just weren't meeting expectations, that's typically not grounds for benefit denial. Misconduct usually involves things like theft, violence, or deliberately violating known policies.

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This is really helpful information. I wish more people knew this distinction.

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Same here! I was so worried for nothing. Definitely filing my claim today.

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THE WHOLE SYSTEM IS RIGGED AGAINST WORKERS! I got fired for 'attitude problems' which is just code for standing up for myself and they still denied my claim. had to go through months of appeals just to get basic benefits i deserved

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That sounds frustrating, but attitude issues can sometimes be considered misconduct if they involve insubordination or creating a hostile work environment. The key is how the behavior is documented and whether it was willful.

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thats exactly the problem - they can twist anything into 'misconduct' if they want to deny benefits

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I used to work in HR and saw this situation a lot. Employers often use vague terms like 'performance issues' when they terminate someone, but that doesn't automatically mean misconduct. Washington ESD investigators are pretty good at distinguishing between someone who was genuinely struggling vs. someone who was being deliberately problematic.

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That's reassuring coming from someone with HR experience. I really was trying my best but felt like I was set up to fail.

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That's exactly the kind of situation where you'd likely qualify for benefits. Document everything you can remember about the lack of training or unclear expectations.

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quick question - do you have to be actively looking for work while your claim is in adjudication? or can you wait until its approved?

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You should start your job search activities right away and keep a log. Washington ESD requires job search activities for each week you claim benefits, even during adjudication.

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got it, thanks! better safe than sorry with the job search requirements

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Just went through this exact situation last month. Got fired for 'not being a good fit' which was really just them not liking my personality. Still got approved for unemployment because it wasn't misconduct. The adjudication took about 4 weeks but was worth the wait.

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Four weeks is a long time but I'm glad it worked out for you! Did you have to provide any documentation during the process?

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They asked for my employment history and I wrote a detailed statement explaining my side of the story. Washington ESD was very thorough in their investigation.

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Pro tip: when you file your claim, be very specific about what happened and why you believe it wasn't misconduct. The more detail you provide upfront, the smoother the adjudication process tends to go.

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Thanks for the advice! I'll make sure to be thorough when I fill out the application.

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I tried calling Washington ESD so many times when I was dealing with my firing situation but could never get through. Finally broke down and used Claimyr to reach an agent who walked me through the whole adjudication process. Honestly wish I'd found them sooner - would have saved me weeks of stress and uncertainty.

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Multiple people have mentioned Claimyr now. Sounds like it's really helpful for getting through to Washington ESD when you need answers.

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I'm starting to think I should try it too. Been trying to reach them for two weeks with no luck.

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Remember that even if you get initially denied, the appeals process exists for a reason. I've seen plenty of people get overturned on appeal when they had good documentation and could clearly explain why their termination wasn't misconduct.

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Good to know appeals are a real option and not just a formality. I feel much better about my chances now.

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this thread has been super helpful! i got fired from my restaurant job last week for 'poor customer service' but it was really because i wouldn't put up with customers being abusive. sounds like i should definitely file

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Absolutely file! Refusing to tolerate abuse from customers is very different from providing poor service. That's exactly the kind of situation where context matters in the adjudication process.

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thanks! filing my claim tonight

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Don't forget to file your weekly claims even while you're waiting for the adjudication decision. You can't go back and claim those weeks later if you forget to file them.

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I didn't know that! Thanks for the heads up - I'll make sure to file every week regardless of the adjudication status.

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Update on my earlier comment about using Claimyr - I actually used them again this week to ask about my benefit amount calculation and the agent was super helpful. They really know their stuff about Washington ESD policies and procedures. Definitely recommend if you're having trouble getting through the regular phone lines.

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That's good to hear they're consistent with good service. I might give them a try if I run into issues.

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Just wanted to say good luck to everyone dealing with this situation. Getting fired is stressful enough without having to worry about whether you'll qualify for benefits. At least Washington state is generally pretty fair about distinguishing between misconduct and performance issues.

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Thanks for the encouragement! This whole thread has made me feel so much better about my situation. Going to file my claim right now.

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