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Washington ESD unemployment after termination - if i am terminated can i get unemployment?

My employer just let me go last Friday and I'm wondering if i am terminated can i get unemployment benefits through Washington ESD? I worked there for 8 months as a warehouse supervisor. They said it was due to 'performance issues' but I feel like they never gave me proper training or clear expectations. I've never filed for unemployment before and don't know if being fired disqualifies me automatically. Has anyone been in this situation? What should I expect when I apply?

You can definitely apply for unemployment even after being terminated. Washington ESD will investigate the circumstances to determine if you're eligible. The key question is whether you were fired for 'misconduct' versus performance issues. Performance problems usually don't disqualify you unless there was willful misconduct involved.

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That's somewhat reassuring. They cited performance but never wrote me up or gave warnings. Should I mention that in my application?

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Absolutely mention the lack of warnings or progressive discipline. Washington ESD considers whether the employer followed proper procedures before termination.

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I got fired from my last job for attendance issues and still qualified for UI benefits. It really depends on the specific circumstances. Washington ESD will contact your employer to get their side of the story during the adjudication process.

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How long did the adjudication take for you? I'm worried about paying bills while they investigate.

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Mine took about 3 weeks but I've heard it can vary a lot depending on how busy they are.

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If you're having trouble getting through to Washington ESD to check on your claim status or ask questions about the adjudication process, there's a service called Claimyr (claimyr.com) that helps people connect with ESD agents. They have a video demo at https://youtu.be/7DieNd3C7zQ showing how it works. I used it when my claim got stuck and it saved me hours of calling.

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Thanks for the tip! I'll definitely keep that in mind if I have trouble reaching someone.

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Never heard of that before but sounds useful given how hard it is to get through to Washington ESD these days.

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The Washington ESD system is so messed up. They'll probably deny you first just to see if you appeal. That's what they did to me even though I was clearly wrongfully terminated.

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That's discouraging. Did you end up appealing and winning?

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Yeah but it took 2 months and a hearing. The whole system is designed to discourage people from claiming benefits they're entitled to.

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While appeals can take time, many termination cases are approved on initial review if there wasn't clear misconduct. Don't assume the worst outcome.

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You should apply as soon as possible because there's a waiting period anyway. Even if Washington ESD needs to investigate, you want to get your application in the system. Make sure you have all your employment dates and wage information ready.

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Good point about applying quickly. Should I wait until I get my final paycheck or can I apply now?

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Apply now. Your final paycheck won't affect your eligibility determination, just potentially delay when benefits start.

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I'm in a similar situation - got terminated 2 weeks ago and still waiting to hear back from Washington ESD. The anxiety is killing me! Does anyone know how to check the status of adjudication online?

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You can check your claim status through the SecureAccess Washington portal, but it won't show detailed progress during adjudication, just 'pending' usually.

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That's exactly when Claimyr becomes really helpful - you can actually talk to someone at Washington ESD to get real updates on what's happening with your case.

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I might try that service if I don't hear something soon. The uncertainty is the worst part.

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Important to know that 'performance issues' and 'misconduct' are totally different things in Washington ESD's eyes. Performance issues are usually things like not meeting productivity standards, making mistakes, or inability to do the job. Misconduct is more like theft, harassment, or willfully violating company policies.

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That distinction makes sense. They definitely framed it as performance, not saying I did anything wrong intentionally.

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Exactly. If they can't prove you were deliberately doing something wrong, it's usually not disqualifying misconduct.

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whatever you do dont lie on the application about why you were terminated. Washington ESD will find out anyway when they contact your employer and lying will definitely disqualify you

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Definitely won't lie. Better to be honest and let them decide based on the facts.

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Good advice. Honesty is always the best policy with unemployment claims.

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Been through this exact scenario. Got fired from my sales job for not hitting targets. Washington ESD approved my claim because missing sales goals isn't misconduct - it's just not being good at the job. The key is whether you were trying to do your job properly.

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That's encouraging. I was definitely trying my best, just struggling with unclear expectations.

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Sounds like you have a good case then. Document everything you can remember about the lack of training or unclear expectations.

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Great point about documentation. Any emails or texts showing you asked for clarification or training could be helpful.

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One thing to prepare for is that your employer might fight your claim. Companies often contest unemployment to keep their rates down. Don't let that discourage you if you know you weren't guilty of misconduct.

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They might contest it? I didn't realize employers could do that.

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Yeah, they get notified when you file and can provide their version of events. But Washington ESD makes the final decision based on all the evidence.

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Make sure you keep filing your weekly claims even during adjudication! I made the mistake of not filing because I thought I had to wait for approval. Lost out on 3 weeks of backpay because of that.

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Oh wow, good to know! I would have probably made the same mistake.

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Yes, always keep filing weekly claims during any pending periods. You can't get backpay for weeks you didn't claim.

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The whole process is stressful but try not to panic. Most people who get fired for performance issues do qualify for unemployment. Just be patient with the system and honest about everything.

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Thanks for the reassurance. This whole situation has been really overwhelming.

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Totally understandable. Losing a job is hard enough without worrying about paying bills too.

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UPDATE: I've been seeing more people mention Claimyr lately and decided to try it myself when my claim had issues. Really impressed with how quickly I got connected to a Washington ESD representative. Worth checking out if you run into problems reaching them directly.

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I actually ended up using Claimyr after reading your earlier comment. Got through to someone at Washington ESD in like 10 minutes instead of calling for hours. They explained exactly what was happening with my adjudication.

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That's amazing! I'll definitely bookmark that site in case I need it.

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Don't forget about the job search requirements once you start receiving benefits. You'll need to log your job search activities and be able and available for work.

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How many jobs do I need to apply to each week?

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It's typically 3 job search activities per week, but check the requirements when you file your weekly claim as they can vary.

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just wanted to follow up that my termination claim was approved after about 4 weeks. They determined that attendance issues without willful misconduct didn't disqualify me. Hang in there!

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That's great news! Gives me hope for my own situation.

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Same here, still waiting but feeling more optimistic reading success stories like yours.

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Quick tip - when you do your phone interview with Washington ESD (if they schedule one), be prepared to explain your side of the story clearly and calmly. They want to understand what really happened.

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Do they always do phone interviews for termination claims?

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Not always, but they might if there are conflicting stories between you and your employer about what happened.

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Final thought - even if your initial claim gets denied, don't give up. The appeal process exists for a reason and many people win on appeal, especially in termination cases where the employer can't prove actual misconduct occurred.

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Good to know I have options even if things don't go well initially. Thanks everyone for all the helpful advice!

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This thread has been really informative. Saved me from making several mistakes with my own claim.

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