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I got fired can I apply for unemployment - Washington ESD eligibility question

So I got terminated from my job last Friday and I'm wondering if I can still file for unemployment benefits through Washington ESD. I worked there for about 8 months and they said it was due to performance issues but I feel like they didn't give me proper training or feedback. I've never filed for unemployment before so I don't know if getting fired automatically disqualifies you or what. Can someone help me understand if I'm eligible and how the process works? I really need the income while I look for another job.

Yes, you can absolutely apply for unemployment even if you were fired! Washington ESD will review your case to determine if the termination was for 'misconduct' or not. Performance issues usually don't count as misconduct unless it was willful neglect or violation of company policy. You should file your claim right away since there's a waiting period and benefits are calculated from when you file, not when you were terminated.

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Thank you! That's a relief. Do I need to gather any specific documents before I file the claim?

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You'll need your Social Security number, driver's license, and employment information for the last 18 months including dates of employment and reason for separation. Also helpful to have your final pay stub.

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I went through this same situation 6 months ago. Got fired for 'poor performance' but it was really because my supervisor had it out for me. Filed for UI benefits and got approved after about 3 weeks. The key is being honest about what happened but also explaining your side of the story. Washington ESD will contact your former employer to get their version too.

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Did they make you do anything special during the review process? I'm worried my employer might lie about what happened.

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They might schedule a phone interview with you to get more details. Just be truthful and stick to the facts. If your employer disputes it, there could be an appeal process but most performance-related terminations get approved.

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File ASAP! I made the mistake of waiting a few weeks thinking I'd find another job quickly and it hurt my benefit amount. The sooner you file, the sooner you can start getting payments. Also, you have to be actively looking for work and reporting your job search activities every week, so keep track of where you apply.

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Good point about the job search requirements. How many jobs do I need to apply to each week?

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You need to make at least 3 job search activities per week and keep a log of them. This can include online applications, networking, job fairs, etc. They're pretty strict about this requirement.

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It's totally legitimate, they just help you get through to Washington ESD faster. I was skeptical at first too but it actually worked and saved me hours of frustration.

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That might be helpful if I run into issues with my claim. The phone system sounds terrible from what everyone says.

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One thing to keep in mind is that your former employer can contest your claim. If they do, your case might go into adjudication which can delay your benefits for several weeks. Don't panic if this happens - it's pretty common and most legitimate claims get approved eventually. Just be patient and respond promptly to any requests for information from Washington ESD.

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What exactly is adjudication? I keep seeing this term but don't understand what it means.

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Adjudication is basically when Washington ESD needs to investigate your claim further before approving benefits. They'll review the circumstances of your termination, maybe interview you and your employer, then make a decision on your eligibility.

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ugh i hate that you even have to worry about this when you just lost your job. the whole system is so backwards. you should automatically get benefits when you lose employment through no fault of your own and then they can investigate later if needed. instead they make you jump through hoops when you're already stressed about money.

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I totally agree. The system seems designed to discourage people from filing rather than help them during tough times.

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It's frustrating but I guess they have to prevent fraud somehow. Still wish the process was more streamlined and user-friendly.

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Make sure you file online through the Washington ESD website - it's faster than calling or going in person. The system will ask you a bunch of questions about your work history and why you separated from your job. Answer everything honestly and provide as much detail as possible. Even if you're not sure about eligibility, it's worth filing because the worst they can do is say no.

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Is the online system pretty straightforward to use? I'm not great with computers.

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It's not too bad once you get started. Takes about 30-45 minutes to complete the initial application. Just have all your employment info ready before you begin.

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Similar thing happened to my brother last year - fired for attendance issues but he had a legitimate medical situation. He filed anyway and after some back and forth with Washington ESD, he got approved. The key was providing documentation to support his case. Even if your situation seems borderline, it's worth applying because you never know how they'll interpret the circumstances.

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That gives me hope. I really feel like the firing was unfair but wasn't sure if that mattered for unemployment purposes.

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Definitely matters! Washington ESD looks at whether the termination was due to misconduct on your part or just employer dissatisfaction with performance. Big difference between the two.

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Don't forget about the waiting week! Washington ESD has a one-week waiting period before benefits start, so even if you get approved right away, your first payment won't be for at least two weeks after you file. Plan your finances accordingly because that first month can be tight.

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Thanks for the heads up. Do you know roughly how much unemployment pays compared to your regular salary?

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It varies based on your earnings but generally ranges from about $295 to $999 per week maximum. It's calculated based on your highest earning quarter in the past year.

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Just want to echo what others have said about being honest in your application. I tried to sugarcoat some details about my termination and it came back to bite me during the review process. Washington ESD will verify everything with your employer anyway, so transparency is your best bet for a smooth approval process.

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Good advice. I'll make sure to be completely honest about what happened even if it doesn't make me look great.

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Exactly right. Better to be upfront about any issues than have them discover inconsistencies later during adjudication.

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How much does that service cost? Is it worth it for simple questions or just for complex issues?

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I think it's reasonable for what you get - actual human contact with Washington ESD. Probably overkill for basic questions you can find answers to online, but super helpful when you have specific issues with your claim.

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Been there done that with the whole fired-for-performance thing. Filed my claim, got approved after about 4 weeks of adjudication, and collected benefits for about 3 months while job hunting. The process was stressful but it worked out. Just stay on top of your weekly claim filings and job search requirements - they're pretty strict about both.

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That's encouraging to hear. Four weeks of adjudication sounds nerve-wracking but at least it had a good outcome.

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Yeah it was definitely stressful not knowing if I'd get approved, but the back pay made up for the wait once it was resolved.

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Quick tip - when you file your weekly claims, make sure you report any income you earn from odd jobs or part-time work. I know someone who got in trouble for not reporting some cash work they did and it caused a whole overpayment mess. Better to be overly transparent than risk issues later.

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Good to know. I wasn't planning on doing any side work but if I do I'll make sure to report it.

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Yes, this is super important! Washington ESD can cross-reference with other agencies and they will find unreported income eventually.

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Also worth mentioning that if your employer does contest your claim and you disagree with Washington ESD's initial decision, you have the right to appeal. The appeal process includes a hearing where you can present your case. I had to do this once and while it was intimidating, having my side of the story heard made all the difference.

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How long does the appeal process typically take? I'm hoping it doesn't come to that but good to know the option exists.

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Mine took about 6 weeks from filing the appeal to getting the hearing scheduled. It varies depending on their caseload but they do try to process them fairly quickly.

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Don't let anyone tell you that getting fired automatically disqualifies you from unemployment. That's a common misconception. As long as the firing wasn't for willful misconduct or violation of law, you're likely eligible. Performance issues, personality conflicts, attendance problems due to illness - these usually don't disqualify you from benefits.

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That's really helpful clarification. I was worried that any type of firing would make me ineligible.

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Yeah, the bar for 'misconduct' is actually pretty high. It has to be intentional wrongdoing or deliberate violation of company policy, not just poor performance.

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Several people have mentioned this service now. Sounds like it might be worth looking into if I run into problems.

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I was skeptical about paying for something like that but honestly the peace of mind was worth it. Got my questions answered in one call instead of days of frustration.

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Just file the claim today if you can. The worst thing you can do is wait and overthink it. Washington ESD will determine your eligibility based on the facts of your case. Even if there's some uncertainty, you're better off filing and potentially getting denied than not filing at all and missing out on benefits you're entitled to.

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You're absolutely right. I'll file the claim tonight. Thanks everyone for all the helpful advice - this thread has been incredibly informative!

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Good luck with your claim! Hope everything works out smoothly for you.

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