Washington ESD unemployment eligibility after being fired for performance - can you still collect?
So I got terminated last Friday after working at a tech company for 8 months. My manager said it was due to not meeting performance expectations, but honestly I feel like they never gave me proper training or clear goals. I'm wondering if I can still file for Washington ESD unemployment benefits? I've heard mixed things about whether getting fired disqualifies you automatically. Has anyone been in this situation before? I really need the income while I look for something new.
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Melina Haruko
You can definitely apply! Getting fired for performance issues doesn't automatically disqualify you from UI benefits in Washington. The key distinction is between misconduct (which disqualifies you) and poor performance or inability to do the job (which usually doesn't). Performance issues are generally considered a mismatch between you and the position rather than willful misconduct. File your claim as soon as possible - there's a waiting period anyway.
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Beatrice Marshall
•Thanks! That's reassuring. Should I be worried about what my employer might tell Washington ESD when they contact them?
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Melina Haruko
•Just be honest about what happened. If it truly was performance-related and not willful misconduct, you should be fine. Washington ESD will investigate both sides.
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Dallas Villalobos
i got fired for performance last year and got approved for unemployment no problem. took like 3 weeks though because they had to do some kind of investigation thing
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Beatrice Marshall
•Did they contact your old employer during that investigation?
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Dallas Villalobos
•yeah they called both me and my boss. just told the truth about what happened and it worked out
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Reina Salazar
The Washington ESD will look at whether your termination was due to misconduct or just poor performance. Misconduct typically involves things like theft, harassment, insubordination, or willful violation of company policies. Simply not being good at your job or not meeting expectations usually isn't considered misconduct. Make sure to file your weekly claims even during the adjudication period - you can get backpay if approved.
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Beatrice Marshall
•Good to know about filing weekly claims during adjudication. I wasn't sure about that part.
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Saanvi Krishnaswami
•Wait, you can get backpay? I thought if you didn't file weekly you just lost those weeks completely?
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Reina Salazar
•If your claim gets approved after adjudication, you can receive payment for the weeks you filed during the waiting period. That's why it's important to keep filing even when your claim is pending.
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Demi Lagos
I had a similar situation and spent weeks trying to get through to Washington ESD to check on my adjudication status. The phone lines are absolutely terrible - kept getting hung up on after waiting for hours. Finally found this service called Claimyr (claimyr.com) that actually got me through to a real person at Washington ESD in like 20 minutes. They have a video demo at https://youtu.be/7DieNd3C7zQ showing how it works. Totally worth it when you're stressed about your claim status.
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Beatrice Marshall
•How much does something like that cost? I'm already tight on money after losing my job.
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Demi Lagos
•It was reasonable considering how much time and frustration it saved me. Way better than calling 200+ times and never getting through.
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Mason Lopez
•Never heard of that but sounds interesting. The Washington ESD phone system is definitely broken.
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Vera Visnjic
PERFORMANCE FIRING IS NOT THE SAME AS MISCONDUCT!!! I can't believe how many people think getting fired automatically disqualifies you. Washington state specifically protects workers who get terminated for performance reasons. The employer has to prove you did something willfully wrong, not just that you weren't good at the job. Fight for your benefits!
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Beatrice Marshall
•Thanks for the emphasis! I was definitely worried they'd just deny me automatically.
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Jake Sinclair
•This is so true. I see people all the time who don't even apply because they think being fired means no unemployment. Not the case at all.
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Brielle Johnson
Just make sure you have documentation about the performance issues if possible. Like emails about training requests, performance review copies, anything showing you were trying to improve. It helps if there's an adjudication hearing.
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Beatrice Marshall
•I do have some emails where I asked for more training and clarification on expectations. Good thinking.
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Brielle Johnson
•Perfect! Keep all of that organized. Shows you were acting in good faith.
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Honorah King
•Wait, there might be a hearing? That sounds scary.
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Brielle Johnson
•Only if the employer contests your claim. Most performance-based terminations don't lead to hearings, but it's good to be prepared.
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Oliver Brown
been there done that. got fired from retail job for being too slow apparently. filed for unemployment and got it no problem. washington esd was actually pretty reasonable about the whole thing
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Beatrice Marshall
•How long did the whole process take for you?
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Oliver Brown
•maybe 2-3 weeks? wasn't too bad compared to some of the horror stories you hear
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Saanvi Krishnaswami
I'm confused about the difference between performance and misconduct. What if your boss says you were insubordinate because you questioned their feedback about your performance?
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Reina Salazar
•Questioning feedback isn't automatically insubordination. It depends on how it was done and if it was repeated after being told to stop. Simply disagreeing with a performance review or asking for clarification isn't misconduct.
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Saanvi Krishnaswami
•That makes sense. I was worried about a situation at my last job where I pushed back on what I thought were unfair criticisms.
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Mary Bates
•Yeah, there's a big difference between respectful disagreement and actual insubordination. Context matters a lot.
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Clay blendedgen
The adjudication process can be nerve-wracking but it's there to protect both employees and employers. Washington ESD takes a pretty balanced approach from what I've seen. They'll interview both parties and look at the facts.
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Beatrice Marshall
•That's reassuring. I was worried it would be biased toward the employer.
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Clay blendedgen
•In my experience, they're pretty fair. Just be honest and provide any documentation you have.
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Ayla Kumar
File ASAP because there's a one-week waiting period before benefits start anyway. Even if your claim goes into adjudication, you want to get that waiting week out of the way. And definitely keep filing your weekly claims during the process.
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Beatrice Marshall
•Good point about the waiting week. I'll file today.
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Lorenzo McCormick
•Wait, is the waiting week still a thing? I thought they got rid of that during COVID.
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Ayla Kumar
•It came back after the pandemic programs ended. One week waiting period is back in effect for regular UI claims.
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Carmella Popescu
Same boat here - got let go last month for not hitting sales targets. Washington ESD approved my claim after about 2 weeks of adjudication. The key was being able to show I was making good faith efforts to improve but the targets were unrealistic. Document everything!
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Beatrice Marshall
•That's encouraging! Did your employer fight the claim at all?
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Carmella Popescu
•They provided their side of the story but didn't really contest it aggressively. I think they knew it was more about unrealistic expectations than misconduct.
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Kai Santiago
Pro tip: when you're going through adjudication and need to talk to Washington ESD, don't waste hours calling their main line. I used a service that got me through immediately - way less stressful than the usual phone nightmare. Really helped me get clarity on my claim status.
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Beatrice Marshall
•Is that the Claimyr thing someone mentioned earlier?
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Kai Santiago
•Yeah, exactly. Game changer for actually reaching a human being at Washington ESD when you need answers.
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Lim Wong
The most important thing is to be completely honest in your application and any interviews. Don't try to spin the story or hide details. Washington ESD investigators can usually tell when someone's being evasive, and it hurts your credibility.
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Beatrice Marshall
•Good advice. I'll just stick to the facts about what happened.
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Dananyl Lear
•Honesty is definitely the best policy with these claims. They've heard every story before.
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Noah huntAce420
Make sure you understand the job search requirements too. Once your claim is approved, you'll need to log job search activities. Don't wait until the last minute to figure that part out.
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Beatrice Marshall
•How many job search activities do you need per week?
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Noah huntAce420
•It's typically 3 job search activities per week, but check your specific requirements when you file. They'll tell you exactly what you need to do.
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Ana Rusula
•And make sure you're using WorkSourceWA to log those activities. The system is integrated with Washington ESD now.
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Fidel Carson
I went through something similar and my biggest mistake was not appealing fast enough when I initially got denied. Don't panic if you get a denial letter - you have 30 days to appeal and many performance-based denials get overturned on appeal.
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Beatrice Marshall
•That's good to know. I hope it doesn't come to that but I'll keep the 30-day deadline in mind.
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Fidel Carson
•Yeah, don't give up after the first decision. The appeal process exists for a reason.
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Isaiah Sanders
Quick question - does it matter what industry you're in? I've heard tech companies sometimes fight unemployment claims more aggressively than other industries.
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Reina Salazar
•The industry doesn't change the legal standards. Some companies are more likely to contest claims, but Washington ESD applies the same misconduct vs. performance analysis regardless of whether it's tech, retail, manufacturing, etc.
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Isaiah Sanders
•That makes sense. Thanks for clarifying!
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Xan Dae
Bottom line: performance termination ≠ misconduct in Washington state. File your claim and let Washington ESD sort it out. Worst case scenario, you get denied and can appeal. Best case, you get approved and have income while job searching. Nothing to lose by trying.
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Beatrice Marshall
•You're right, nothing to lose. Thanks everyone for all the helpful advice! Going to file my claim this afternoon.
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Fiona Gallagher
•Good luck! Hope it goes smoothly for you.
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Thais Soares
For what it's worth, I've seen way more performance-based claims get approved than denied. Washington state seems to err on the side of supporting workers who genuinely tried to do their job but it just wasn't a good fit.
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Beatrice Marshall
•That's really encouraging to hear. I definitely tried my best at that job, it just wasn't the right match.
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Thais Soares
•Exactly! That's the kind of situation unemployment insurance is designed for.
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Nalani Liu
One last tip: if you do end up needing to talk to Washington ESD during the process and can't get through on the phone, that Claimyr service people mentioned earlier actually works. I was skeptical at first but it saved me so much time and stress when I needed to clarify something about my adjudication.
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Beatrice Marshall
•I'll keep that in mind if I run into phone issues. Thanks for the recommendation!
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Axel Bourke
•Yeah, their phone system is notoriously difficult. Any tool that helps get through is worth considering.
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