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Can you get unemployment benefits if you've been fired from your job in Washington?

I got terminated from my job last week and I'm not sure if I can even apply for unemployment benefits. My manager said it was due to performance issues but I feel like they never gave me proper training or feedback. I've been working there for 2 years and this came out of nowhere. Does being fired automatically disqualify you from getting Washington ESD benefits? I really need the income while I look for something new.

You can definitely still get unemployment if you were fired, but it depends on the reason. Washington ESD looks at whether it was 'misconduct' or not. Performance issues usually don't count as misconduct unless you were deliberately not doing your job. You should apply right away and let them make the determination.

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That's a relief to hear. What exactly counts as misconduct then? I was never written up or anything like that.

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Misconduct is usually things like stealing, violence, repeatedly being late after warnings, or willfully not following rules. Poor performance or not being a good fit typically doesn't qualify as misconduct.

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I was in the same situation last year - got fired for 'not meeting expectations' but still got approved for benefits. The key is being honest on your application and letting Washington ESD investigate if your employer contests it.

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How long did it take to get approved? I'm worried about paying bills if there's a long delay.

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It took about 3 weeks because they had to do an adjudication to determine if I was eligible. My employer didn't fight it though, so it went pretty smooth.

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Just went through this myself. Applied online and got stuck in adjudication hell for weeks trying to reach someone at Washington ESD to explain my situation. Couldn't get through on the phone no matter how many times I called.

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Never heard of that but I'll check it out. At this point I'm willing to try anything to get through to a real person at Washington ESD.

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Important thing to remember - even if you were fired, you still have the right to apply for benefits. Don't let your employer convince you otherwise. Washington ESD will make the final determination based on their investigation.

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My ex-boss told me I wouldn't qualify because I was terminated. Sounds like he was wrong about that.

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Employers often say that to discourage people from filing. They don't want their unemployment insurance rates to go up. File anyway and let Washington ESD decide.

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been fired from 3 jobs and got unemployment every time lol. as long as you werent stealing or doing drugs or something crazy you should be fine

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That's... not exactly helpful advice. Every situation is different and Washington ESD looks at the specific circumstances.

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im just saying dont stress about it too much. most people who get fired for regular reasons still get benefits

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The process is pretty straightforward: apply online at esd.wa.gov, answer all questions honestly about why you were terminated, and then wait for Washington ESD to review your case. If your employer contests it, they'll do an adjudication interview.

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What happens during the adjudication interview? Do I need to prepare anything specific?

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They'll ask you to explain your side of what happened. Have any documentation ready like emails, performance reviews, or company policies. Be honest and stick to the facts.

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Just want to add that you should apply ASAP even if you're not sure you qualify. There's a waiting period anyway, and if you wait too long you might miss out on benefits you're entitled to.

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Good point. I was hesitating because I wasn't sure, but I guess there's no harm in applying.

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Exactly. The worst they can say is no, but you might be surprised and get approved.

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Washington ESD will look at whether you had 'good cause' for any actions that led to your firing. Even if you made mistakes, if you were trying to do your job in good faith, that usually doesn't count as misconduct.

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That makes sense. I was definitely trying my best, I just think the job wasn't a good fit for my skills.

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That's exactly the kind of situation where you'd likely still qualify for benefits. Skill mismatch isn't your fault.

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I got fired for attendance issues but still got approved because I had medical documentation for my absences. Even if there were legitimate reasons for your termination, you might still qualify depending on the circumstances.

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That's interesting. I didn't have attendance issues but it shows they really do look at each case individually.

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Yeah, they're pretty thorough. The adjudication process exists specifically to sort out these gray area situations.

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One thing to watch out for - if your employer fights your claim, the process can take longer. But don't let that discourage you from applying. Most employers don't actually contest unless it was serious misconduct.

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How would I know if they're contesting it? Do they notify you?

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Washington ESD will let you know if there's a dispute and they need to do an adjudication. You'll get paperwork in the mail explaining the process.

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THE WHOLE SYSTEM IS BROKEN! I was fired for bogus reasons and it took 2 MONTHS to get my benefits. Meanwhile I'm behind on rent and struggling to feed my family. Washington ESD needs to fix their processes!

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I understand the frustration, but the adjudication process exists to protect both workers and employers. It's not perfect but it's better than having no protections at all.

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Easy to say when you're not the one waiting months for money you're entitled to while bills pile up.

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Is that legitimate? Sounds too good to be true.

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Yeah it's real. They don't ask for personal info or anything sketchy. Just helps you navigate the phone system to reach a human at Washington ESD.

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Quick tip - when you file your claim, be very specific about why you were fired. Don't just say 'performance issues' - explain what specific performance concerns were raised and whether you received proper training or feedback.

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That's really helpful advice. I'll make sure to be detailed when I fill out the application.

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The more context you provide, the better Washington ESD can evaluate whether the termination was fair or not.

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I was fired for 'not being a team player' which was basically code for not putting up with a toxic work environment. Still got my benefits because Washington ESD saw through the employer's vague reasoning.

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Glad it worked out for you. Gives me hope that they really do investigate fairly.

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They definitely do their homework. Don't let vague termination reasons scare you away from applying.

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Remember you can also appeal if you get denied initially. The appeals process gives you another chance to present your case if Washington ESD makes an unfavorable determination.

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Good to know there's a backup plan. Hopefully it won't come to that though.

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Most people don't need to appeal, but it's there if you need it. The system has multiple layers of protection for workers.

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Just to add some perspective - I work in HR and most terminations for performance or attendance don't rise to the level of misconduct that would disqualify someone from benefits. The bar is pretty high for misconduct.

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That's reassuring to hear from someone on the employer side. Makes me feel more confident about applying.

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Exactly. Unless there was theft, violence, or willful violation of clear policies, most fired employees still qualify for unemployment.

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Bottom line - apply for your benefits. Don't let being fired scare you away from getting the help you're entitled to while you look for new work. Washington ESD will sort out the details.

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Thanks everyone for all the advice and encouragement. I'm going to apply today and see what happens.

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Good luck! Most people in your situation end up getting approved. Don't stress too much about it.

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One more thing - make sure you start filing your weekly claims right away even if your initial claim is still being reviewed. You don't want to miss out on any weeks you're eligible for.

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I didn't know that. So I file weekly claims even before I know if I'm approved?

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Yes, you file for every week you're unemployed. If you get approved, you'll get backpay for those weeks. If you don't file, you lose those weeks forever.

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Also remember that getting fired doesn't affect your job search requirements. You'll still need to do your work search activities and log them in your WorkSourceWA account once you start receiving benefits.

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At least I'm already looking for work so that part shouldn't be a problem.

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Perfect. You're already ahead of the game then. Just make sure to document everything properly when the time comes.

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Had a friend who got fired and was told by her employer she couldn't get unemployment. She didn't apply for 3 months because she believed them. When she finally did apply, she lost out on all those weeks of benefits. Don't make the same mistake!

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Wow, that's awful. Definitely not making that mistake. Filing today for sure.

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Employers sometimes mislead people about this stuff. Always apply and let Washington ESD make the call.

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I went through something similar when I was terminated for "not meeting goals" even though I was never given clear performance metrics or coaching. The key thing is that Washington ESD distinguishes between misconduct (which disqualifies you) and just being a poor fit or not meeting expectations (which usually doesn't). Since you mentioned lack of proper training and feedback, that actually works in your favor - it shows the employer didn't give you adequate support to succeed. Apply immediately and be honest about the circumstances. The worst case is they deny you and you can appeal, but given what you've described, you'll likely be approved.

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