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Can you get unemployment if fired in Washington state?

I was terminated from my job last week and I'm wondering if I can still file for unemployment benefits in Washington? My supervisor said it was due to performance issues but I feel like they didn't give me proper training or support. I've been working there for almost 2 years and never had any formal write-ups. Does getting fired automatically disqualify you from receiving Washington ESD benefits? I'm really stressed about this and need to know if I should even bother applying.

Yes, you can absolutely get unemployment benefits even if you were fired, as long as it wasn't for misconduct. Performance issues generally don't count as misconduct unless they were willful or repeated violations after warnings. Since you mentioned no formal write-ups, that works in your favor. File your claim as soon as possible with Washington ESD.

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Thank you! That's a relief. Should I mention the lack of training when I file my claim?

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Definitely include all relevant details about inadequate training or support. Washington ESD will investigate both sides of the story during adjudication.

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I got fired for being late too many times and still got approved for benefits. The key is being honest on your application and explaining your side of the story.

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How long did it take for your claim to get approved after filing?

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About 3 weeks, but they had to do an adjudication interview with me and my former employer first.

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Interesting, I'll check that out. The Washington ESD phone system seems impossible to navigate.

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Never heard of that service but honestly anything is better than hitting redial 500 times a day

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The distinction between misconduct and performance issues is crucial. Misconduct typically involves deliberate violations of company policy, theft, harassment, or willful neglect of duties. Poor performance due to inability rather than unwillingness usually qualifies for benefits. Document everything about your termination.

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I have emails showing I asked for additional training multiple times. Would those help my case?

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Absolutely! Those emails demonstrate good faith effort on your part and could be valuable evidence if there's an adjudication hearing.

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Make sure to keep copies of everything. Washington ESD might request documentation during their investigation.

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ugh the whole system is so confusing... I'm in a similar situation and have no idea what to expect. Did you get any severance pay? I heard that might affect when benefits start.

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No severance, they just walked me out that day. What did you hear about severance affecting benefits?

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Severance pay can delay the start of benefits depending on how it's structured. Washington ESD considers it wages for the period it covers.

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File immediately don't wait! Even if you're not sure about eligibility, let Washington ESD make that determination. The worst they can do is deny it, but you might be surprised. I thought I'd be denied and got approved within a month.

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Good point, I'll file this weekend. Better to try than assume I won't qualify.

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Exactly! Plus there's a waiting period anyway so starting the process early is always better.

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Performance vs misconduct is the key difference here. I work in HR and see this all the time. Unless you were stealing, fighting, or blatantly violating clear policies, termination for performance issues typically qualifies for unemployment benefits.

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That's reassuring coming from someone in HR. They basically said I wasn't meeting expectations but never gave me specific metrics or improvement plans.

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Lack of clear expectations or progressive discipline actually strengthens your case. Employers have a duty to provide reasonable guidance and opportunities for improvement.

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This is why documentation is so important on both sides. Sounds like your employer didn't handle this properly.

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When I got terminated they told me I was ineligible for unemployment but I applied anyway and got approved! Don't let employers discourage you from filing - they don't make that decision, Washington ESD does.

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Wow, they actually told you that? That seems wrong for them to give legal advice about unemployment eligibility.

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Right? I think they were just trying to discourage me from filing. Always file regardless of what former employers say.

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The adjudication process can take a while so be patient. Washington ESD has to contact your former employer and give them a chance to respond. During busy periods this can take several weeks. Make sure you keep filing your weekly claims even while waiting.

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Good to know about continuing weekly claims. I was wondering about that part.

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Yes definitely keep filing weekly even during adjudication! You'll get back pay if approved but only for weeks you actually filed.

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I had a similar situation - fired for 'not being a good fit' after 18 months with no warnings. Used Claimyr to get through to Washington ESD when my claim got stuck in adjudication. The agent explained that vague termination reasons like that usually favor the employee. Got approved 2 weeks later.

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That's encouraging! 'Not being a good fit' sounds just as vague as my 'performance issues' reason.

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Employers sometimes use vague language thinking it protects them but it actually helps claimants because there's no specific misconduct alleged.

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Make sure you're honest about the circumstances when filing. Washington ESD will fact-check with your employer, so any discrepancies could hurt your case. Stick to the facts and let them make the misconduct determination.

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Definitely planning to be completely honest. I have nothing to hide since I genuinely tried to do my best at that job.

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Honesty is always the best policy with these claims. ESD can usually tell when someone is being truthful vs trying to game the system.

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Don't forget about job search requirements once you start receiving benefits. You'll need to actively look for work and document your efforts. The requirements are pretty specific so make sure you understand them.

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I'll definitely look into those requirements. Do they start immediately or is there a grace period?

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Job search requirements typically start with your first payable week, so pretty much right away. Check the Washington ESD website for current requirements.

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The requirements changed somewhat post-COVID so make sure you're looking at current info, not old forum posts.

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Even if your claim gets initially denied, you can appeal the decision. The appeals process gives you another chance to present your case, often with a hearing where you can explain your side directly to a judge.

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Good to know there's an appeals option. Hopefully it won't come to that but it's reassuring to have backup options.

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Appeals can actually be more favorable to claimants because you get to tell your story directly instead of just through written statements.

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Based on what you've described, you have a strong case for benefits. Lack of formal write-ups, requests for training that were ignored, and vague termination reasons all work in your favor. File as soon as possible and be thorough in your application.

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Thank you everyone for all the helpful advice! I'm feeling much more confident about filing now.

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You're welcome! This community is great for support during stressful times. Hope everything works out for you.

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One more tip - when you file online, save screenshots of everything and keep confirmation numbers. Sometimes the system glitches and having proof you submitted everything on time can save headaches later.

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Great advice! I'll make sure to document everything thoroughly.

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Screenshots saved my bacon when Washington ESD claimed they never received my weekly claim. Always cover yourself with documentation.

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The waiting can be nerve-wracking but try to stay positive. Most people who were fired for performance issues rather than misconduct do get approved eventually. Focus on your job search while the claim processes.

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Thanks for the encouragement! I'm already starting to look for new opportunities while waiting.

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That's the right attitude. Staying proactive with job searching also helps if they ask about your efforts during adjudication.

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Just remember that even if there's an adjudication delay, you can still get retroactive benefits back to when you first filed if approved. Don't let processing time discourage you from filing promptly.

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That's really helpful to know about retroactive payments. Takes some pressure off the timing.

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Exactly! I got 6 weeks of back pay when my adjudication finally got resolved. File early and be patient with the process.

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Good luck with your claim! Sounds like you have all the information you need to file a strong application. Remember to be thorough but honest, and don't let the employer's characterization of the termination discourage you from applying.

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Thank you so much everyone! This thread has been incredibly helpful and reassuring. I'll update once I hear back from Washington ESD.

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Please do update us! Success stories help encourage others in similar situations.

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