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Jacob Lee

Can you claim unemployment if fired - Washington ESD eligibility question

I got terminated from my job last Friday and I'm not sure if I can file for unemployment benefits through Washington ESD. My supervisor said it was due to performance issues but I feel like they never gave me proper training or feedback. Does being fired automatically disqualify you from getting UI benefits in Washington state? I've been working there for 8 months and this is my first time dealing with unemployment.

You can still file for unemployment even if you were fired, but it depends on the reason. Washington ESD will review your case to determine if you were terminated for 'misconduct' or not. Performance issues usually don't count as misconduct unless they involve willful neglect of duties.

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Jacob Lee

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That's reassuring to hear. How do I know if what I did counts as misconduct? They said I wasn't meeting sales targets but I was never written up or anything.

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Not meeting performance standards typically isn't misconduct. Misconduct usually involves things like theft, fighting, or deliberately violating company policies. You should definitely file your claim.

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File your claim ASAP! Even if you're not sure about eligibility, it's better to apply and let Washington ESD make the determination. The worst they can do is deny it, but you might be surprised.

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Jacob Lee

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Good point. I was worried about wasting their time but you're right - better to try than assume I can't get benefits.

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Daniela Rossi

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Exactly! I thought I wouldn't qualify when I got let go but ended up getting approved. The key is being honest about everything when you file.

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Ryan Kim

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When you file your initial claim, Washington ESD will contact both you and your former employer to get both sides of the story. This is called an adjudication process. Be prepared to explain your version of events and provide any documentation you have.

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Jacob Lee

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Should I gather emails or anything before I file? I don't have much documentation since they never formally disciplined me.

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Ryan Kim

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Collect anything you have - emails about your performance, your job description, any feedback you received. Even if it's limited, having something is better than nothing.

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Zoe Walker

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Also keep records of your job search efforts starting now. Washington ESD requires you to look for work while collecting benefits.

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Elijah Brown

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Jacob Lee

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Interesting, I'll check that out. Did you end up getting approved for benefits after being fired?

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Elijah Brown

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Yes! Took about 3 weeks for the adjudication to complete but I was approved. The key was explaining that my termination was due to performance, not misconduct.

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Never heard of Claimyr before but sounds useful. The Washington ESD phone lines are brutal to get through on your own.

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Natalie Chen

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Don't let your employer intimidate you into not filing! Some employers will tell you that you can't get unemployment if you're fired, but that's not always true. Washington ESD makes the final decision, not your employer.

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Jacob Lee

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My manager did say something like that when I was leaving. Glad to know they can't just block me from getting benefits.

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Natalie Chen

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Employers sometimes say that to discourage claims because it can affect their unemployment tax rates. Don't let it stop you from filing.

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Daniela Rossi

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File online at secure.esd.wa.gov as soon as possible. You want to get your claim started right away because there's usually a waiting week before benefits begin. The sooner you file, the sooner the process starts.

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Jacob Lee

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Thanks for the link! I'll file tomorrow morning. Is there anything specific I should know about filling out the application?

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Daniela Rossi

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Be completely honest about why you were terminated. Don't try to sugar-coat it or make it sound better than it was. Washington ESD will find out the truth anyway when they contact your employer.

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Also make sure you have your Social Security number, employment history for the last 18 months, and bank account info for direct deposit ready before you start.

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Zoe Walker

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The adjudication process can take anywhere from 2-6 weeks depending on how complex your case is. During this time, keep filing your weekly claims even if you haven't been approved yet. If you're eventually approved, you'll get backpay for those weeks.

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Jacob Lee

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Good to know about the weekly claims. I was wondering if I should wait until I'm approved to start those.

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Ryan Kim

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Definitely keep filing weekly! If you miss filing a weekly claim, you can lose that week's benefits even if you're later approved.

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Just remember that even if you get approved, you'll need to actively look for work and report your job search activities. Washington ESD requires at least 3 job search activities per week, and they do audit claims sometimes.

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Jacob Lee

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What counts as a job search activity? Just applying for jobs or other things too?

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Applying for jobs, networking events, career fairs, interviews, contacting employers directly - there's a list on the Washington ESD website. Keep detailed records of everything.

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Daniela Rossi

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You can also register with WorkSourceWA which sometimes counts as one of your weekly activities. They have job search resources too.

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I was fired for attendance issues and still got approved for benefits. The key was that my attendance problems were due to medical issues that I had documentation for. Context matters a lot in these decisions.

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Jacob Lee

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That's encouraging. In my case it was really about not getting proper training and support, so hopefully that works in my favor.

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Sounds like you have a good case. Performance issues without misconduct usually result in approved claims. Just be thorough in explaining your side of the story.

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Natalie Chen

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One more thing - if Washington ESD initially denies your claim, you can appeal the decision. Don't give up if you get a denial letter. Many people win on appeal, especially for performance-related terminations.

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Jacob Lee

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How long do you have to file an appeal if needed?

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Natalie Chen

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You have 30 days from the date of the determination letter to file an appeal. The appeal process includes a hearing where you can present your case.

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Ryan Kim

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Appeals can take 2-3 months to resolve, but if you win, you'll get backpay for all the weeks you should have received benefits.

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Elijah Brown

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Another vote for using Claimyr if you need to talk to someone at Washington ESD. I tried calling for weeks on my own with no luck. Their service got me connected within a day and I was able to get my questions answered about my adjudication status.

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Zoe Walker

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I might need to try that. I've been trying to reach Washington ESD about my claim for over a week with no success.

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Elijah Brown

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It's worth it. The regular phone lines are just impossible to get through, especially during busy periods. Claimyr takes the frustration out of trying to reach them.

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Bottom line: being fired doesn't automatically disqualify you from unemployment benefits in Washington. File your claim, be honest about what happened, and let Washington ESD make the determination. You might be pleasantly surprised with the outcome.

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Jacob Lee

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Thanks everyone for all the helpful advice! I feel much more confident about filing now. Going to start the application first thing tomorrow.

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Daniela Rossi

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Good luck! Remember to keep filing those weekly claims and documenting your job search. You've got this!

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Keep us posted on how it goes. It's always good to hear success stories to help others in similar situations.

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