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Can you get Washington ESD unemployment if you get fired from a job - need help understanding eligibility

So I just got terminated from my warehouse job yesterday and I'm wondering if I can still file for unemployment benefits through Washington ESD. My supervisor said it was due to 'performance issues' but honestly I think they were just looking for reasons to let people go. I've been working there for almost 2 years and never had any formal write-ups or anything. Does getting fired automatically disqualify you from UI benefits in Washington? I really need to know if I should bother applying or if it's just going to get denied anyway. Has anyone been in this situation before?

Getting fired doesn't automatically disqualify you from Washington ESD unemployment benefits. It depends on the reason for termination. If you were fired for 'misconduct' that's one thing, but performance issues usually don't count as misconduct unless it was willful or deliberate. You should definitely file your claim - let Washington ESD make the determination.

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That's reassuring to hear. What exactly counts as misconduct in Washington state? I was never insubordinate or anything like that.

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Misconduct typically involves things like theft, violence, repeated policy violations after warnings, or deliberately ignoring job duties. Poor performance due to lack of ability or skill usually isn't considered misconduct.

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I got fired from my retail job last year for being late too many times and still got approved for unemployment. Took about 3 weeks for them to make a decision but I eventually got benefits. The key is being honest on your application about why you were terminated.

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Did you have to go through adjudication? I'm worried about that process taking forever.

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Yeah it went to adjudication but it wasn't too bad. They called my former employer and me to get both sides of the story.

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File your claim ASAP - don't wait! Even if you think you might not qualify, let Washington ESD decide. The worst they can do is deny it, but if you don't apply you definitely won't get anything. You can always appeal if they deny your initial claim. Also, make sure you have documentation of your work history and any performance reviews if you have them.

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Good point about not waiting. I'll start the application today. Do I need pay stubs or will they get that info from my employer?

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They'll verify your wages with your employer, but having your own records is always helpful in case there are discrepancies.

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I've been trying to get through to Washington ESD for weeks about my claim that's stuck in adjudication. The phone system is absolutely impossible - I've tried calling hundreds of times and either get busy signals or get disconnected after waiting on hold for hours. Has anyone found a way to actually talk to a real person there?

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Try calling right at 8am when they open or during lunch time around 12-1pm. Those seem to be the best times to get through.

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I've tried that too but still no luck. It's so frustrating when you need answers about your claim.

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The Washington ESD system is so broken. I got fired for allegedly not meeting sales quotas but I was never given clear targets to begin with. Filed for unemployment 2 months ago and still haven't heard anything back. Meanwhile I'm behind on rent and bills piling up.

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Have you tried contacting your state representative's office? Sometimes they can help push things along with Washington ESD.

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I didn't know that was an option. I'll look into that, thanks.

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Before going the political route, you might want to try getting through to Washington ESD directly. I used Claimyr to connect with an agent and was able to get my adjudication resolved much faster than waiting for them to contact me.

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same boat here got canned last month supposedly for 'attitude problems' which is BS if you ask me

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Did you end up filing for unemployment? How did it go?

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yeah filed right away and got approved after like 5 weeks of waiting. they said my employer couldn't prove misconduct

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Just to clarify for everyone - in Washington state, you're eligible for unemployment benefits if you're unemployed through no fault of your own. This includes being laid off, having your hours reduced, or being fired for reasons other than misconduct. Performance issues, personality conflicts, or being a 'poor fit' typically don't constitute misconduct under Washington law.

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This is really helpful. Do you know if there's a difference between being fired and being terminated? My paperwork says 'terminated' but my boss said I was fired.

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Those terms are often used interchangeably. What matters for unemployment purposes is the reason behind the termination, not the specific wording used.

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I work in HR and deal with unemployment claims all the time. Employers have to provide documentation to support a misconduct claim. If they can't prove willful misconduct, the employee usually gets benefits. Most companies don't fight unemployment claims unless it's a clear case of theft or something serious.

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That's interesting. So my employer would have to prove I did something wrong on purpose?

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Exactly. They'd need to show you willfully violated known company policies or deliberately failed to perform your job duties despite being capable of doing so.

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What if you were fired during a probationary period? Does that change anything?

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File your claim today! I waited too long after getting fired and it delayed my benefits by weeks. Washington ESD processes claims based on when you file, not when you lost your job. The sooner you apply, the sooner you can start receiving benefits if approved.

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Good to know. I was worried about applying too quickly but sounds like that's not a problem.

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Definitely not a problem. You want to file your claim as soon as possible after losing your job.

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Whatever you do, be completely honest on your application. Don't try to sugar coat why you were terminated. Washington ESD will contact your employer anyway and if your stories don't match, that could hurt your case.

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Makes sense. I'll just explain exactly what happened without trying to make it sound better than it was.

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Yes, honesty is key. I tried to downplay why I got fired and it came back to bite me when they did the investigation.

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The adjudication process can be stressful but try not to panic if your claim goes into that status. It just means they need to investigate the circumstances of your separation from work. Most performance-related terminations get approved eventually.

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How long does adjudication usually take? I need to know for budgeting purposes.

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It varies but typically 2-6 weeks depending on how quickly they can reach both parties and how complex the case is.

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If you need to talk to someone at Washington ESD about your adjudication status, Claimyr can help you get through to an agent quickly instead of spending hours trying to call yourself.

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I got fired from my job at a call center for not meeting call volume metrics and still got unemployment. The key was that I was trying my best but just couldn't keep up with their unrealistic expectations. Washington ESD ruled it wasn't misconduct.

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That sounds similar to my situation. Did your employer contest your claim?

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They provided their side of the story but didn't actively fight it. I think they knew they couldn't prove misconduct.

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Remember that even if you get denied initially, you can appeal the decision. I had to go through the appeal process and ended up winning my case. Don't give up if you get a denial letter.

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Good to know there's a second chance. How long do you have to file an appeal?

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You have 30 days from the date on the determination letter to file an appeal.

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The Washington ESD website has a section about eligibility requirements that might be helpful. You can also do the eligibility quiz to get a general idea of whether you might qualify before filing your full application.

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I'll check that out, thanks. Any other resources you'd recommend?

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The Washington State Department of Commerce also has some good information about unemployment benefits and job search resources.

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Just went through this whole process myself. Got fired in December for 'not being a team player' which was really just personality conflicts with my supervisor. Filed immediately and got approved after about 4 weeks. The waiting was the worst part but it worked out in the end.

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Glad it worked out for you. That gives me hope that my situation might turn out okay too.

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Just stay positive and be patient with the process. It's frustrating but most people who were fired for performance reasons end up getting benefits.

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One thing to keep in mind is that you'll need to be actively looking for work and able to accept suitable employment to maintain your benefits. Make sure you understand the job search requirements before you start claiming weekly benefits.

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How many job applications do you need to do per week in Washington?

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You need to make at least 3 job search activities per week and keep a log of your search activities.

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The job search requirements can be confusing. If you need help understanding what counts as a valid job search activity, talking to a Washington ESD representative can clarify things.

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Bottom line - file your claim and let Washington ESD decide. You've got nothing to lose by applying and potentially weeks or months of benefits to gain if you're approved. Don't let the fear of denial stop you from trying.

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You're absolutely right. I'm going to file my application today. Thanks everyone for all the helpful advice and encouragement!

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Good luck! Keep us posted on how it goes.

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