Do you get unemployment if you're fired - Washington ESD eligibility rules?
Just got terminated from my warehouse job yesterday and I'm trying to figure out if I can even apply for unemployment benefits through Washington ESD. My supervisor said it was for 'performance issues' but honestly I think they were just looking for reasons to let people go. I've been working there for almost 2 years and never had any formal write-ups or warnings. Does anyone know if being fired automatically disqualifies you from getting UI benefits in Washington? I really need to know before I waste time filing a claim.
67 comments


Lukas Fitzgerald
You can definitely still get unemployment even if you were fired, but it depends on WHY you were fired. Washington ESD looks at whether you were terminated for 'misconduct' or just regular performance/business reasons. If they fired you for attendance, poor performance, or downsizing - you should be eligible. If it was for stealing, fighting, or willful misconduct - that's different.
0 coins
Nadia Zaldivar
•That's good to know! They said performance but I never got any formal warnings. Should I mention that when I file?
0 coins
Lukas Fitzgerald
•Yes absolutely mention the lack of progressive discipline. Washington ESD wants to see if your employer followed proper procedures before terminating.
0 coins
Ev Luca
•This is really helpful info. I was worried about the same thing when I got let go last month.
0 coins
Avery Davis
I went through this exact situation 6 months ago. Got fired for 'performance' but it was really just them cutting costs. Filed my claim anyway and Washington ESD approved it after about 3 weeks. The key is being honest about what happened but also explaining your side of the story. If you never got written warnings or went through progressive discipline, that actually works in your favor.
0 coins
Nadia Zaldivar
•Did they contact your employer during the process? I'm worried my boss will say bad things about me.
0 coins
Avery Davis
•Yeah they sent my employer some forms to fill out about why I was terminated. But Washington ESD makes their own decision based on the facts, not just what your employer says.
0 coins
Collins Angel
Be prepared that your claim might go into adjudication if your employer contests it. This happened to me and I couldn't get through to anyone at Washington ESD for weeks to check on the status. Finally used this service called Claimyr (claimyr.com) that actually got me connected to a real person who explained what was happening. They have this demo video too: https://youtu.be/7DieNd3C7zQ. Made the whole process way less stressful.
0 coins
Nadia Zaldivar
•How long did adjudication take for you? I'm already stressed about money.
0 coins
Collins Angel
•Mine took about 5 weeks total but that was because I couldn't get info from Washington ESD. Once I used Claimyr to talk to someone, they explained I just needed to submit one more document and it was resolved in a few days.
0 coins
Marcelle Drum
•Never heard of Claimyr before but might be worth looking into. The Washington ESD phone system is absolutely terrible.
0 coins
Tate Jensen
DEFINITELY apply! I see so many people who don't even try because they think being fired automatically disqualifies them. That's not true at all. Washington has pretty reasonable unemployment laws compared to some states. The worst thing that can happen is they deny your claim, but you can appeal that decision too.
0 coins
Nadia Zaldivar
•You're right, I should just go for it. Better to try than wonder what if.
0 coins
Adaline Wong
•Exactly! And even if they deny initially, lots of people win their appeals.
0 coins
Marcelle Drum
The real question is whether your termination was for 'misconduct' under Washington law. Simple poor performance usually isn't considered misconduct unless you were deliberately doing bad work or ignoring direct orders. Since you said no formal warnings, sounds like you have a good case.
0 coins
Nadia Zaldivar
•What exactly counts as misconduct? I want to make sure I understand.
0 coins
Marcelle Drum
•Things like theft, violence, chronic tardiness after warnings, insubordination, drug/alcohol use at work. Basic performance issues don't usually qualify.
0 coins
Gabriel Ruiz
•This is helpful. I got fired for being 10 minutes late a few times but never got written up either.
0 coins
Ev Luca
File your claim as soon as possible! Even if there's an issue, you want to get the process started. I waited a week after getting fired and regretted it because benefits are dated from when you file, not when you lost your job.
0 coins
Nadia Zaldivar
•Good point! I'll file today then. Better safe than sorry.
0 coins
Ev Luca
•Smart move. The online system is pretty straightforward for the initial filing.
0 coins
Adaline Wong
Just to add - when you file, be completely honest about why you were terminated. Don't try to sugarcoat it or leave things out. Washington ESD will find out anyway when they contact your employer, and being dishonest will definitely hurt your case.
0 coins
Nadia Zaldivar
•Makes sense. Honesty is probably the best policy here.
0 coins
Misterclamation Skyblue
•Yes! I made this mistake and it caused way more problems than just being upfront from the start.
0 coins
Peyton Clarke
Also remember that even if you get approved, you'll still need to do your weekly claims and job search requirements. Don't forget about that part once you start receiving benefits. Washington ESD is pretty strict about the job search stuff.
0 coins
Nadia Zaldivar
•How many jobs do you have to apply to each week?
0 coins
Peyton Clarke
•I think it's 3 job search activities per week, but check the current requirements when you file. They changed some rules recently.
0 coins
Lukas Fitzgerald
•It's actually 3 job search activities but they can include more than just applications - networking, job fairs, etc.
0 coins
Vince Eh
I got fired from my last job for supposedly being 'difficult to work with' which was complete BS. Still got my unemployment approved after they investigated. The key is that Washington ESD looks at whether the employer had good cause and followed proper procedures. Sounds like your situation is similar to mine.
0 coins
Nadia Zaldivar
•That gives me hope! How long did the investigation take?
0 coins
Vince Eh
•About 4 weeks but this was during busy season. Might be faster now.
0 coins
Sophia Gabriel
One thing to watch out for - if your employer contests your claim, you might have to participate in a phone hearing. Don't panic if this happens! Lots of people win these hearings, especially if the employer can't prove actual misconduct.
0 coins
Nadia Zaldivar
•A hearing sounds scary. Do you need a lawyer for that?
0 coins
Sophia Gabriel
•You can get one but most people represent themselves. Just be prepared to explain your side clearly and have any documentation ready.
0 coins
Tobias Lancaster
•I had a hearing and won without a lawyer. Just told the truth and had my facts straight.
0 coins
Ezra Beard
Quick question - did they give you any severance pay? That might affect when your benefits start but shouldn't disqualify you completely.
0 coins
Nadia Zaldivar
•No severance, just my final paycheck. Is that good or bad?
0 coins
Ezra Beard
•Actually good for unemployment purposes! No severance means no delays in benefit start date.
0 coins
Statiia Aarssizan
The Washington ESD website has a good explanation of misconduct vs non-misconduct terminations. Might be worth reading through that before you file so you know what to expect.
0 coins
Nadia Zaldivar
•I'll check that out. Thanks for the tip!
0 coins
Reginald Blackwell
•Yeah their website actually has decent info, unlike their phone system lol
0 coins
Aria Khan
Been there! Got 'laid off' but really fired for not meeting unrealistic quotas. Still got approved because Washington ESD could see the quotas were impossible. Don't give up even if your situation seems complicated.
0 coins
Nadia Zaldivar
•That's encouraging. Seems like they really do investigate fairly.
0 coins
Aria Khan
•Yeah they were actually pretty thorough. Took time but was worth it.
0 coins
Everett Tutum
If you do run into problems getting through to Washington ESD during the process, I had success with that Claimyr service someone mentioned earlier. Really helped when my claim got stuck and I couldn't get answers anywhere else.
0 coins
Nadia Zaldivar
•Good to know there are options if I get stuck. Hopefully I won't need it but nice to have a backup plan.
0 coins
Sunny Wang
•Same here, used Claimyr when I was having adjudication issues. Worth it for the peace of mind.
0 coins
Hugh Intensity
Whatever you do, don't let your employer intimidate you out of filing. I've seen managers tell people they won't be eligible just to discourage them from applying. File anyway and let Washington ESD make the decision.
0 coins
Nadia Zaldivar
•My supervisor did seem pretty confident I wouldn't get benefits. Now I'm wondering if that was just to discourage me.
0 coins
Hugh Intensity
•Probably was! Employers often say that stuff hoping you won't file. Don't let them decide for you.
0 coins
Marcelle Drum
•Exactly. Let Washington ESD be the judge, not your former boss.
0 coins
Effie Alexander
Also keep in mind that if you do get approved, your weekly benefit amount will be based on your earnings over the past year. Make sure you have accurate records of your wages when you file.
0 coins
Nadia Zaldivar
•I should have all my pay stubs. Is there anything else I need to gather?
0 coins
Effie Alexander
•Just basic info about your employment dates and reason for separation. The wage info they can verify independently.
0 coins
Melissa Lin
Good luck with your claim! Sounds like you have a solid case based on what you've described. The process can be stressful but don't let that stop you from getting benefits you're entitled to.
0 coins
Nadia Zaldivar
•Thanks everyone! This thread has been super helpful. I'm feeling much more confident about filing now.
0 coins
Avery Davis
•Glad we could help! Come back and update us on how it goes.
0 coins
Collins Angel
•Yeah definitely update us! And remember about Claimyr if you need to talk to someone at Washington ESD during the process.
0 coins
Lydia Santiago
Just saw this thread and wanted to add that I got unemployment after being fired for 'attitude problems' which was basically just me standing up for myself. Don't let vague termination reasons scare you off from applying.
0 coins
Nadia Zaldivar
•That's similar to my situation. Makes me feel better about my chances.
0 coins
Lydia Santiago
•Yeah, as long as you weren't actually doing anything wrong, you should be fine. Washington is pretty fair about these things.
0 coins
Romeo Quest
One last thing - start looking for work right away even while your claim is processing. You'll need to show job search activities anyway and it looks good if there are any questions about your case.
0 coins
Nadia Zaldivar
•Already started updating my resume! Figure I might as well get a head start.
0 coins
Romeo Quest
•Smart approach! That proactive attitude will serve you well.
0 coins
Val Rossi
This whole thread is why I love this forum. So much good info and support for people dealing with Washington ESD stuff. Hope everything works out for the OP!
0 coins
Nadia Zaldivar
•Seriously, you all have been amazing. I was so stressed this morning and now I feel like I actually know what I'm doing.
0 coins
Everett Tutum
•That's what we're here for! Washington ESD can be confusing but it's definitely manageable when you know what to expect.
0 coins