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Kristian Bishop

Can a caregiver collect Washington ESD unemployment benefits?

My mom got really sick last year and I had to quit my retail job to take care of her full time. I've been her primary caregiver for about 8 months now but her condition is getting worse and I'm running out of savings. A friend told me I might be able to get unemployment benefits even though I left my job voluntarily. Is this true? Can caregivers actually qualify for Washington ESD unemployment? I'm worried they'll say I quit without good cause but I literally had no choice.

Yes, caregivers can potentially qualify for Washington ESD unemployment benefits under certain circumstances. When you quit to care for an immediate family member with a serious health condition, it can be considered 'good cause' for leaving work voluntarily. You'll need to provide medical documentation proving your mom's condition and that you were the only person available to provide care.

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Thank you! What kind of medical documentation do I need? Just a doctor's note or something more detailed?

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You'll typically need a detailed medical statement from your mom's doctor explaining her condition, why she needs care, and that you're the primary caregiver. Sometimes they want proof that no other family members were available to help.

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I'm sorry for your loss. Whether you can collect unemployment depends on how you were paid and if taxes were withheld. If you were an independent contractor receiving 1099s, you might not qualify for regular UI. But if you were considered an employee with W-2 forms and had Social Security/Medicare taxes taken out, you could potentially qualify.

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Thank you. I received 1099 forms, so it sounds like I might not qualify for regular unemployment then?

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Unfortunately, traditional UI is for employees, not independent contractors. However, you should still apply and let Washington ESD make the determination. Sometimes the employment relationship isn't as clear-cut as it seems.

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I went through this exact situation with my dad two years ago. Washington ESD approved my claim but it took forever to get through adjudication. They really scrutinize caregiver cases to make sure you actually had good cause to quit.

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How long did your adjudication take? I'm already struggling financially and can't afford to wait months.

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Mine took about 6 weeks but that was during COVID when everything was slower. These days it might be faster but still expect at least 3-4 weeks.

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You should definitely apply anyway. Even if you were technically a contractor, there are situations where Washington ESD might reclassify the relationship as employment if you were essentially functioning as an employee. The worst they can say is no.

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That's encouraging to hear. I'll go ahead and file an application then.

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Never heard of that service before. Does it actually work to get through to Washington ESD?

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Yeah it's real, they just help you get through the phone queue faster. I was skeptical too but it actually worked when I needed to talk to someone about my adjudication.

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Wait, I thought caregivers automatically qualified for unemployment if they were family members? I've been putting off applying because I assumed I wouldn't be eligible.

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That's not correct. Being a family member doesn't automatically make you eligible. It still depends on the employment relationship and whether you had wages reported to Washington ESD.

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Oh no, I've been misinformed then. I better look into this more carefully.

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The key thing Washington ESD looks at is whether you had 'covered employment' - meaning your employer paid unemployment taxes on your wages. If the insurance company or care agency was treating you as an employee and withholding taxes, you probably qualify. If you were just receiving direct payments as a contractor, it's much less likely.

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The payments came through a home care agency that contracted with the insurance company. Would that make a difference?

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That could definitely make a difference! If the agency was your actual employer and treated you as such for tax purposes, you might qualify. The agency would have been responsible for paying unemployment taxes.

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Wait, I thought you couldn't get unemployment if you quit your job voluntarily? This is confusing. How is caregiving different from just quitting for any other reason?

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Washington state law recognizes certain situations as 'good cause' for voluntary separation, including caring for an immediate family member with a serious health condition. It's not just any reason - there are specific criteria.

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Oh okay, so there are actual legal exceptions. That makes more sense.

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I was in almost the exact same situation last year. Cared for my dad through an agency arrangement. When I applied for unemployment, Washington ESD initially denied me because they said I was self-employed. But I appealed and provided documentation showing the agency controlled my work schedule and supervised my care duties. Won the appeal and got benefits.

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That gives me hope! What kind of documentation did you provide for the appeal?

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I provided my work schedule from the agency, any training materials they gave me, and emails showing they directed how I was supposed to provide care. Basically anything that showed they controlled how I did my job.

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This is confusing. I thought anyone could get unemployment now after COVID? My neighbor said everyone qualifies.

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That's not accurate. The pandemic programs like PUA that covered independent contractors ended in 2021. We're back to the regular unemployment system that requires covered employment.

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Oh, I didn't realize those programs had ended. Thanks for clarifying.

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Have you tried calling Washington ESD directly to ask about your situation? They should be able to tell you right away if you have wages on file that would make you eligible.

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I've tried calling several times but can never get through. The line is always busy or I get disconnected after waiting on hold.

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That's exactly why I mentioned Claimyr earlier. It's specifically designed to help people get through to Washington ESD when the regular phone lines aren't working.

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You should also know that while you're caring for your mom, you still need to be able and available for work to collect unemployment. This means if a suitable job opportunity comes up, you'd need to be able to accept it. If your caregiving duties prevent you from working, that could be an issue.

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That's a good point. My mom needs care during the day but I could potentially work evenings or weekends. Would that be enough to meet the availability requirement?

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Possibly, but you'd need to demonstrate that you're actively seeking work during the times you're available. Keep detailed records of your job search activities.

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The whole system is ridiculous. My sister went through this when our grandmother was dying and they made her jump through so many hoops just to prove she was a real caregiver. Like taking care of family isn't hard enough already!

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That's exactly what I'm worried about. Did your sister eventually get approved?

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Yes but it took months and she had to appeal the initial denial. The whole process was a nightmare.

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Don't let the horror stories scare you - many caregiver claims are approved without issues if you have proper documentation. The key is being thorough with your initial application and having all your medical documentation ready.

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What should I include in my initial application to avoid delays?

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Include your mom's diagnosis, timeline of when her condition worsened, when you quit work, and why you were the only person who could provide care. Be specific about her care needs.

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I'm in a similar situation with my husband who has dementia. Filed my claim three weeks ago and it's still in adjudication. Anyone know if there's a way to speed up the process?

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That's exactly when I used Claimyr to get through to an agent. They were able to tell me what additional documentation they needed for my case.

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I might have to try that. The waiting is killing me financially.

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Even if you don't qualify for regular UI, you might be eligible for other assistance programs. WorkSource has job training programs for caregivers transitioning to other work. Worth checking out while you're figuring out the unemployment question.

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That's a good point. I'll look into what other resources are available too.

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Update: I started gathering all the medical records and documentation. My mom's doctor said she'd provide a detailed statement about her condition and care needs. Feeling a bit more hopeful about this process.

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That's great! Having a cooperative doctor makes a huge difference. Make sure the statement specifically mentions that you're the primary caregiver.

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Good luck! The documentation step is the most important part of the whole process.

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The unemployment system is so complicated, especially for non-traditional work situations. I spent months trying to figure out if my gig work qualified. Ultimately had to just apply and see what happened.

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Did you end up qualifying for benefits?

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Partially. Some of my work qualified but not all of it. At least it was something while I looked for a regular job.

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I'm curious about the timeline here. You said you were caregiving for 8 months - do you have other recent work history besides that? Washington ESD looks at your last 18 months of earnings to determine benefit amounts.

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I worked at a retail job for about 6 months before I started caregiving. Would that help my case?

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Yes, that definitely helps! If you had covered employment within the base period, that strengthens your eligibility. The caregiving income might be questionable, but the retail job should count toward your benefits.

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Whatever you do, make sure to apply soon. There are deadlines for when you can file after your last day of work, and you don't want to miss out if you are eligible.

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Good point. I'll file the application this week just to be safe.

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The whole system seems designed to make it as difficult as possible to get help when you need it. Sorry you're going through this on top of everything else.

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Thank you for the support. It's definitely been overwhelming trying to figure everything out.

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Hang in there. The bureaucracy is frustrating but there are people who can help you navigate it.

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I used to work for a home care agency and can tell you that how they classify workers varies a lot. Some treat everyone as contractors to avoid paying benefits, while others properly classify as employees. Check your paystubs or tax documents to see which category you were in.

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I'll dig out all my paperwork and see what it shows. Thank you for the insight from someone who knows the industry.

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Don't forget that even if your initial application gets denied, you can appeal. The appeals process gives you a chance to present your case more thoroughly than the initial online application allows.

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That's reassuring to know. I was worried that a denial would be final.

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Definitely not final! My appeal was successful even after the initial denial. Just make sure to appeal within the timeframe they give you.

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Has anyone had luck with the online chat feature on the Washington ESD website? Sometimes it's easier than trying to call.

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I tried the chat but it was just as backed up as the phone lines. Ended up waiting over an hour and then got disconnected.

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That's been my experience too. The regular contact methods are just overwhelmed. Services like Claimyr exist specifically because of these access issues.

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Make sure you keep detailed records of everything - all your paystubs, tax forms, contracts, work schedules, anything that shows the nature of your employment relationship. You'll need it whether for the initial application or a potential appeal.

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Great advice. I'll gather everything together before I apply. Better to have too much documentation than not enough.

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The process can take weeks even after you apply, so don't expect immediate answers. Washington ESD is still pretty backed up from all the changes over the past few years.

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I'll try to be patient. At least now I have a better idea of what to expect and what documentation I need. Thank you everyone for all the helpful advice!

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Good luck with your application. I hope it works out for you during this difficult time.

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Just want to add that you also need to consider whether your caregiving situation is temporary or permanent. If it's permanent, unemployment might not be the right solution since you need to be seeking work.

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That's a really good point. My mom's condition is progressive but we're hoping she'll stabilize enough that I can eventually return to work part-time.

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That sounds like a reasonable situation for unemployment benefits then. Just be honest about your timeline and availability.

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Can you still do job search activities while caregiving? I imagine it's hard to attend interviews when you're taking care of someone full-time.

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You still need to meet the job search requirements, but Washington ESD can sometimes make accommodations for caregivers. You might be able to do virtual interviews or schedule them around care needs.

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I hadn't thought about the interview scheduling issue. Good thing to keep in mind.

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Does anyone know if there are other benefits caregivers can get besides unemployment? Like some kind of caregiver assistance program?

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There are some state programs through DSHS for family caregivers, but the requirements are pretty strict. Unemployment might be easier to qualify for if you meet the good cause criteria.

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Thanks, I'll look into both options. Every little bit helps when you're not working.

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Be prepared for them to ask a lot of personal questions about your family situation. They wanted to know why my siblings couldn't help with care, our financial situations, everything. It felt pretty invasive.

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Ugh, that sounds awful. But I guess I understand why they need to verify the situation.

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Yeah, they have to make sure people aren't gaming the system. Just be prepared to explain your whole family dynamic.

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Quick question - does it matter how long you worked before quitting to care for family? I only worked at my last job for 6 months before my dad got sick.

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You still need to meet the regular eligibility requirements for unemployment, including having sufficient work history and wages. The caregiver good cause just covers the reason for leaving voluntarily.

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Got it, so I still need to have enough wages in my base period. Thanks for clarifying.

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One more question - should I file my claim now or wait until I have all the documentation gathered? I'm worried about timing.

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File your claim as soon as possible. You can't get benefits for weeks before you file, and you can always submit additional documentation during the adjudication process.

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Definitely file now. If you need help navigating the system or talking to agents about your case, that's when services like Claimyr can really help.

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The whole caregiving situation is so stressful already without having to worry about finances. I hope Washington ESD makes this process easier for people in these situations.

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Seriously. Like we don't have enough to deal with already.

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Right? The system should be helping families, not making everything harder.

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Has anyone had success with appeals if their initial caregiver claim was denied? What was the appeal process like?

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My sister had to appeal and it took another 8 weeks, but she eventually won. The hearing officer was more understanding than the initial reviewer.

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That's encouraging. At least there's still hope if the first decision is wrong.

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Thanks everyone for all the advice and support. I'm going to file my claim this week and see what happens. Will update if I learn anything useful during the process.

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Good luck! Feel free to ask if you run into any issues during the application process.

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Hope it goes smoothly for you. Caregiving is hard enough without financial stress.

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Remember, if you need to talk to someone at Washington ESD during the process, Claimyr is always an option to skip the phone hassles.

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This thread has been really helpful. I'm in a similar situation with my elderly father and wasn't sure if I qualified for unemployment after quitting my job to care for him.

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Glad it helped! It's nice to know we're not alone in these situations.

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Definitely. The information about documentation requirements was especially useful.

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One thing to keep in mind is that even if you qualify, the benefit amount might not cover all your expenses. Make sure you're also looking into other assistance programs if needed.

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You're right. I'm hoping it's at least enough to cover basic bills while I figure out a longer-term plan.

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Every little bit helps. And at least unemployment gives you some breathing room to explore other options.

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I'm so sorry you're going through this difficult situation with your mom. As others have mentioned, Washington does recognize caregiving for immediate family members as "good cause" for voluntary separation in certain circumstances. The key factors they'll look at are: 1) medical documentation proving your mom's serious health condition, 2) proof that you were the primary/only available caregiver, and 3) that you had covered employment (meaning your previous retail job paid into the unemployment system). Since you worked retail for several months before becoming a caregiver, that should help establish your base period wages. I'd definitely recommend filing your claim soon - you can always provide additional documentation during the review process, but you can't get benefits for weeks before you file. The process can take several weeks for adjudication, especially for caregiver cases, but don't let that discourage you from applying.

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