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Can I sell stuff while on unemployment benefits in Washington?

I've been on unemployment for about 6 weeks now and I'm wondering if I can sell some of my personal belongings to help make ends meet. I have some furniture, electronics, and clothes I could sell on Facebook Marketplace or eBay. Does Washington ESD consider this income that I need to report on my weekly claims? I don't want to mess up my benefits but I really need the extra money right now.

Generally speaking, selling your personal belongings isn't considered income for unemployment purposes. The key is that these are items you already owned, not something you're producing or buying to resell for profit. But definitely keep records of what you sell and for how much, just in case.

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That's a relief! I was worried about reporting every $20 from selling old clothes. Thanks for clarifying.

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Yeah but what if you're selling a lot of stuff? Like if you make $500 in a week from selling things?

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You need to be careful here. Washington ESD distinguishes between selling personal property and operating a business. If you're regularly buying and selling items for profit, that could be considered self-employment income that needs to be reported on your weekly claims.

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How do they determine if it's regular business vs just cleaning out your house? I'm not buying anything new to sell.

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If it's truly your personal belongings that you're decluttering, you should be fine. But if you start flipping items or it becomes a regular income source, that's different.

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Interesting, I might need to try that. I've been trying to reach them about my adjudication issue for weeks.

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ive been selling my old video games and comic books while on UI and never reported it. probably made like $300 total over 3 months. figure its just my own stuff so whatever

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You're probably fine since those are personal items, but you might want to keep receipts just in case.

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I wouldn't stress about it. They're not going to audit you for selling your old PlayStation games.

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The Washington ESD website is pretty vague about this stuff. I called them three times and got three different answers about what counts as income. One agent said any money coming in needs to be reported, another said personal property sales don't count, and the third one wasn't sure. Really frustrating.

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That's exactly why I'm asking here! The information online is so confusing.

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This is why it's important to get clarification from someone who really knows the rules. The phone agents sometimes give inconsistent information.

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I think the main thing to consider is whether you're doing this as a business or just getting rid of stuff you don't need. If you're buying storage unit contents to flip or going to garage sales to resell items, that's probably income. But selling your old couch? Probably not.

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Yeah that makes sense. I'm literally just trying to declutter my apartment and make some money from things I already own.

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Exactly. There's a big difference between having a side hustle and just cleaning house.

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Washington ESD is so strict about everything else, I'd be worried about not reporting it. What if they find out somehow? Like if you're depositing money into your bank account from PayPal or Venmo?

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They don't typically monitor your bank account unless there's a specific audit or investigation. But keeping good records is always smart.

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I guess I'm just paranoid after hearing about people getting overpayment notices for things they didn't even know they were supposed to report.

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Been there! When I was on unemployment I sold my old guitar and some tools. Made about $400 total. Never reported it because it was just stuff I owned. No issues with my claim. Just don't make it a regular business and you should be fine.

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Thanks for sharing your experience! That's reassuring to hear.

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Same here. Sold my old bike and some furniture when I was on UI. Never thought to report it as income since it was just personal stuff.

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THE WHOLE SYSTEM IS CONFUSING!! I've been trying to figure out what I can and can't do while on unemployment and it's like they want to make it as complicated as possible. Why can't they just give clear answers about this stuff???

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I feel your frustration! The rules seem to change depending on who you talk to.

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Right?? And good luck actually getting someone on the phone to explain anything!

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My friend is a tax preparer and she told me that selling personal belongings isn't taxable income unless you sell them for more than you originally paid. Same logic probably applies to unemployment reporting - it's not really 'income' if you're just recovering some of what you already spent.

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That's a good point! I definitely won't be selling anything for more than I paid for it.

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Tax rules and unemployment rules aren't always the same though. But in this case, your friend is probably right about personal property.

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I tried calling Washington ESD about this exact question last month and spent literally 6 hours over three days trying to get through. Finally gave up and just decided to not report the $150 I made selling old books. Figured if they ask later I can explain it was personal property.

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Yeah I'm definitely going to look into that if I have more questions. The phone system is absolutely terrible.

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just be smart about it. if youre making like $50 here and there from old clothes and books nobody cares. if youre making hundreds every week then yeah probably report it

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That's kind of what I figured. I'm not talking about big money here, just random stuff I want to get rid of.

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Common sense approach. They're not going to come after you for garage sale money.

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I work part-time at a thrift store and we have people come in all the time who are clearly flipping items they buy from us. That's probably what Washington ESD would consider a business. But if you're just selling your old TV and some clothes? That's just normal life stuff.

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Yeah exactly! I'm not running a business, just trying to make some extra cash from things I don't need anymore.

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Makes sense. There's definitely a difference between decluttering and operating a resale business.

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When in doubt, document everything. Keep photos of what you're selling, screenshots of listings, records of sale prices. If Washington ESD ever questions it, you can show it was legitimately personal property you owned.

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Good advice! I'll start taking pictures and keeping records just in case.

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Smart approach. Better to have documentation you don't need than need documentation you don't have.

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Thanks everyone for all the responses! Sounds like the consensus is that selling personal belongings isn't income I need to report, as long as I'm not running a business. I'll keep records just in case but I feel much better about selling some stuff now. Really appreciate all the help!

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You're welcome! Just remember to keep it reasonable and document everything. Good luck with your sales!

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Hope you get some good money for your stuff! Every little bit helps when you're on unemployment.

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I went through this same situation a few months ago. I was decluttering my place and sold about $600 worth of furniture, old electronics, and clothes over a couple months on Facebook Marketplace. I kept detailed records with photos and sale prices, but never reported it on my weekly claims since it was all personal property I'd owned for years. Never had any issues with ESD. The key is making sure you're truly selling your own belongings and not buying things to resell - that would cross into business territory. Keep good documentation and you should be fine!

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Thanks for sharing your experience! $600 over a couple months sounds like a reasonable amount for decluttering. I like that you kept detailed records - that seems like the smart way to handle it. Did you use any specific method to organize your documentation, or just photos and basic sale info?

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This is really helpful to hear from someone who actually went through it! I'm in a similar situation - need to sell some furniture and electronics to help with bills while I'm job hunting. Did you find Facebook Marketplace worked well for furniture sales? I've been hesitant to list my bigger items because I wasn't sure if there would be much interest.

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