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Yara Nassar

Can I reapply for unemployment if I was denied by Washington ESD?

My unemployment claim got denied about 6 months ago because they said I quit voluntarily (which I disagree with - I was basically forced out due to unsafe working conditions). I didn't appeal at the time because I found another job pretty quickly. Now I'm laid off again and wondering if I can reapply for unemployment benefits or if that old denial will prevent me from getting approved this time? Has anyone been in a similar situation with Washington ESD?

Yes, you can absolutely file a new claim! Each unemployment claim is based on your most recent work history and reason for separation. The previous denial won't automatically disqualify you from this new claim since it's a completely different job separation.

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That's such a relief to hear! I was worried the old denial would follow me forever.

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This is correct - each claim stands on its own merits with Washington ESD.

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I was in almost the exact same boat last year. Previous claim denied for job abandonment (total BS), then got laid off from my next job 8 months later. Filed a new claim and it went through without any issues. Washington ESD will look at your most recent employer and why you separated from that job, not the old stuff.

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Did they even ask about the previous claim during the application process?

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Nope, the application just asks about your most recent work. They have the old info in their system but it didn't come up.

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Just make sure you file as soon as possible after your layoff. There's no waiting period between claims, and you want to get in the system quickly. If you run into any issues with Washington ESD during the process, I'd recommend checking out Claimyr at claimyr.com - they help people get through to ESD agents when the phone lines are impossible. There's a demo video at https://youtu.be/7DieNd3C7zQ that shows how it works.

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Thanks for the tip! I'll definitely file today. Hopefully I won't need help getting through to them but good to know there are options.

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Claimyr sounds interesting - I've been trying to reach ESD for weeks about my adjudication.

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wait so the old denial doesn't matter at all?? that seems weird to me

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It doesn't matter for eligibility purposes because you're filing based on new employment. Think of it like applying for a new job - your previous rejection somewhere else doesn't affect the new application.

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ok that makes sense when you put it that way

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One thing to be aware of though - if they do any kind of review or audit, they might look at your full claim history. I don't think it would disqualify you but it could potentially slow down processing if they want to verify details about the previous claim.

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Ugh, I hope not. I just want this to go smoothly this time since I was legitimately laid off.

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In my experience, they only dig deeper if there are red flags in the current claim. A straightforward layoff should process normally.

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THE SYSTEM IS BROKEN! I've been fighting these people for months and they just deny deny deny. Good luck getting any help from Washington ESD - they're useless!

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That's frustrating but doesn't really help OP's situation. Each case is different.

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Just warning them what they're getting into. This agency is a nightmare.

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I think you should also consider appealing that old denial if you still can. Even though you have a new job separation, having that old decision overturned might help if there are ever questions about your claim history. But I'm not sure if there's a time limit on appeals.

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Appeals typically need to be filed within 30 days of the decision, so that ship has probably sailed for the 6-month-old denial.

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Yeah, I definitely missed that window. I was just so stressed at the time and the new job came up quickly.

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Make sure you have all your layoff documentation ready when you file - termination letter, final pay stub, any WARN notice if applicable. Being organized upfront can prevent delays.

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Good point, I have the layoff letter and my final paystub. It was a reduction in force so pretty straightforward.

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RIF layoffs are usually the easiest to get approved since it's clearly not the employee's fault.

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Quick question - do you know if you'll need to do job search activities right away or is there still a waiting period for that?

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Job search requirements start immediately now in Washington. You need to log 3 job search activities per week and register with WorkSourceWA.

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Got it, I'll make sure to register with WorkSource when I file my claim.

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I had a friend who was in a similar situation and she said the new claim went through fine, but it took forever to get her first payment because of some 'computer glitch' they claimed. Just be patient if there are delays.

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That's been happening to a lot of people lately. The system seems to have issues.

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If you run into payment delays or other issues, that's another time when Claimyr can be really helpful for getting through to someone who can actually fix the problem.

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wait I'm confused about something - if you file a new claim, does it use your wages from the job you just got laid off from, or does it go back further? like what if you didn't work there very long?

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It uses your base period wages, which looks at the first 4 of the last 5 completed quarters before you file. So it's not just your most recent job - it's all the wages you earned during that time period that count.

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oh ok that makes more sense

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Just wanted to add - even though your previous claim was denied, you should still answer all the questions on the new application honestly. Don't try to hide anything because they have access to all your previous interactions with Washington ESD.

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Absolutely, I plan to be completely honest. The circumstances are totally different this time anyway.

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Good attitude. Honesty is always the best policy with government agencies.

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I'm dealing with something similar but my old claim is still in adjudication hell from 4 months ago. Should I file a new claim for my recent layoff or wait for the old one to get resolved?

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File the new claim! Don't let the old one hold you up. If they're different benefit years, you can have both in the system.

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Definitely file new. I waited on an old claim and missed out on benefits I was entitled to.

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One more thing - make sure you file online if possible. The phone system is still a mess and online filing is much faster and more reliable.

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Yeah I was planning to do it online. I remember the website being pretty straightforward when I tried before.

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The online system works great until you need to talk to a human. Then you're stuck calling for hours.

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Has anyone used those services that help you get through to ESD on the phone? I keep seeing ads for them but wondering if they're legit.

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Yeah, Claimyr is legit - I used them when I couldn't get through about my pending status. They actually got me connected to an agent who resolved my issue the same day. Worth checking out if you get stuck.

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I was skeptical too but my sister used them and said it was a lifesaver when her claim got stuck.

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Good luck OP! Sounds like you should be fine since it's a legitimate layoff. The system works better when there are no gray areas about the reason for separation.

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Thanks everyone! This thread has been super helpful. I feel much more confident about filing now.

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Keep us posted on how it goes!

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Just to echo what others said - I was denied on a previous claim for attendance issues (which I disagreed with) and when I got laid off from my next job 2 years later, the new claim was approved without any problems. The key is that each claim is evaluated independently.

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That's really reassuring to hear from someone who went through the exact same thing.

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It's nice when the system actually works the way it's supposed to!

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Don't forget you'll need to certify weekly once your claim is active. Set a reminder so you don't miss any weeks - they don't automatically pay you.

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Good reminder! I'll set up a weekly reminder on my phone once I get approved.

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Yeah missing even one week can cause headaches trying to get it backdated.

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Update us when you file! I'm curious to see how smooth the process is these days compared to the chaos from a couple years ago.

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Will do! Planning to file tomorrow morning. Hopefully it's much better now.

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Fingers crossed for you! The system has definitely improved from the pandemic craziness.

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Last thought - if your claim does get flagged for any reason and goes into adjudication, don't panic. It's pretty routine and usually just means they need to verify some information. Just respond quickly to any requests they send you.

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Thanks for the heads up. I'll make sure to check my account and messages regularly.

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And if you can't get through by phone during adjudication, that's when services like Claimyr can really save you time and frustration.

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