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Manny Lark

Can you apply for unemployment another time after being denied in Washington ESD?

My unemployment claim got denied back in September because they said I didn't have enough work history. I've been working part-time since then and now I'm wondering - can you apply for unemployment another time if your situation changes? I have more quarters of work now and lost my job again last week. Does Washington ESD let you file a new claim or do you have to wait a certain amount of time? I'm confused about whether this would be a new claim or if I need to reopen my old one.

Yes, you can definitely file a new claim! Since you worked after your denial, you'll likely qualify for a fresh claim with your new base period. The denial from September doesn't prevent you from applying again.

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That's a relief! Do I need to mention the previous denial when I apply or just start fresh?

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Just file normally through the Washington ESD website. They'll see your work history and determine eligibility based on your current situation.

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same thing happened to me last year, got denied then worked more and got approved the second time around

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How long between your applications? I'm worried about timing.

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maybe like 8 months? as long as you worked enough hours you should be good

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You'll need to file a new initial claim, not reopen the old one. Washington ESD will calculate your base period using your most recent work quarters. If you've earned enough wages in covered employment since your denial, you should meet the monetary requirements this time.

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What if I'm still short on the monetary requirements? Is there any way to appeal or get around it?

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If you don't meet regular UI requirements, you might qualify for other programs. But you'd need to meet the base period wage requirements - there's no appeal for that.

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Interesting, might have to try that myself. The phone lines are impossible.

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MAKE SURE you report your part-time work correctly on your new application! Washington ESD will cross-reference everything and if there are discrepancies it could delay your approval.

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Good point. Should I gather all my pay stubs before applying?

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Yes! Have all your employer info, dates, and wages ready. It'll make the application process smoother.

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wait can you really just apply again after being denied? that seems too easy

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If your circumstances changed and you have new qualifying wages, yes. It's not the same as appealing a denial.

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oh okay that makes sense, thought it was like a permanent ban or something lol

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Update: I tried calling Washington ESD this morning to ask about my situation but couldn't get through. The automated system just keeps hanging up on me after being on hold.

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Try calling right when they open at 8am, sometimes you can get through then

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The key thing is whether you have enough wages in your new base period. Washington ESD uses a specific formula - you need wages in at least two quarters and total wages of at least 680 times your weekly benefit amount.

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That sounds complicated. Is there a way to calculate this myself before applying?

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There's a benefit calculator on the Washington ESD website that can give you an estimate based on your wages.

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I applied twice too, first time denied for not enough work, second time approved after working more. The process was actually pretty straightforward the second time around.

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Did you have to explain why you were applying again or reference your previous denial?

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Nope, just filled out the application normally. They have access to your work history anyway.

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be careful about the timing though, if you quit your part time job voluntarily you might get disqualified even if you have enough wages now

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I got laid off, didn't quit. Should be okay on that front.

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oh good, layoffs are usually fine for UI eligibility

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The Washington ESD system is so confusing. I wish they made it clearer about reapplying after denials. Had to figure it out the hard way myself.

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Yeah, their website doesn't really explain this scenario well.

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The key distinction is between appealing a denial and filing a new claim with changed circumstances. Two different processes.

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Just file online through the regular process. Don't overthink it. If you have more qualifying wages now, you should be fine.

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Thanks, I think I'm making this more complicated than it needs to be.

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I had a similar situation but mine was due to job separation issues, not wages. Still was able to reapply successfully after my circumstances changed.

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Good to know it works for different types of denials too.

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Yeah, as long as the reason for your original denial is no longer applicable, you can try again.

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Seems like a lot of people have had success with that service. Might be worth trying.

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Definitely worth it if you need to actually talk to someone. The regular phone lines are a nightmare.

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Make sure you understand the difference between a new claim and reopening an existing claim. Sounds like you need a new claim since your old one was denied.

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Right, new claim it is. Thanks for clarifying that distinction.

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just apply online and see what happens, worst case they deny you again but at least you'll know for sure

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True, no harm in trying with my updated work history.

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The Washington ESD adjudication process can take a while if there are any questions about your claim. Be prepared for potential delays even if you qualify this time.

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How long should I expect if it goes to adjudication?

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Can vary from a few weeks to a couple months depending on their workload and the complexity of your case.

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Good luck with your new application! Sounds like you have a much better chance this time with more work history.

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Thanks! I'm feeling more confident about it now after all this advice.

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Final update: I went ahead and filed my new claim online. The system accepted it and I'm now waiting for the determination. Thanks everyone for the help and encouragement!

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Great to hear! Hope it goes smoothly this time.

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Will do! Fingers crossed this works out better than last time.

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