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Malik Johnson

Can I collect Washington ESD unemployment benefits while on leave of absence from work?

My employer approved me for a 6-month unpaid leave of absence to care for my sick parent. I'm not getting any income during this time and wondering if I can file for unemployment benefits through Washington ESD. I'm technically still employed but not working or getting paid. Has anyone been in this situation? Do I qualify for UI benefits while on an approved leave?

Unfortunately, you typically can't collect unemployment while on an approved leave of absence because you're still considered employed. Washington ESD requires that you be separated from employment to qualify for benefits.

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That's what I was afraid of. So even though I'm not getting paid, I'm still technically employed?

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Exactly. The key factor is your employment status, not whether you're receiving pay. You'd need to actually quit or be laid off to qualify.

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wait but what if the leave is because of family medical reasons? i thought there were exceptions for that

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You might be thinking of Paid Family and Medical Leave (PFML) through Washington State, but that's different from unemployment insurance. PFML provides partial wage replacement during qualifying family or medical leaves.

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oh yeah that makes sense, i always get those confused

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I had a similar situation last year and couldn't get through to Washington ESD to ask about my specific circumstances. The phone lines were constantly busy and I kept getting disconnected. I ended up using a service called Claimyr (claimyr.com) that helped me get connected to an actual ESD agent. They have a demo video at https://youtu.be/7DieNd3C7zQ showing how it works. The agent was able to explain that since I was on approved leave, I didn't qualify for regular UI benefits but could potentially apply for PFML instead.

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That's interesting, I hadn't heard of Claimyr before. Did they charge you a lot to get through?

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They focus on getting you connected rather than the cost. For me it was worth it to get a definitive answer about my situation instead of guessing.

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I've been trying to reach Washington ESD for weeks about my claim. Might have to check that out if I can't get through soon.

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This is frustrating because you're in a tough spot financially but the system doesn't seem set up to help people in your situation. Have you looked into whether your employer offers any kind of leave benefits or assistance?

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They don't offer paid leave unfortunately. It's a small company so they don't have a lot of benefits.

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Small companies can be the worst for stuff like this. They give you the bare minimum required by law.

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To be eligible for unemployment in Washington, you must be able and available for work, actively seeking employment, and have qualifying separation from work. Being on an approved leave of absence means you're not available for work and haven't separated from your employer, so you wouldn't meet these basic requirements.

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That makes sense. So my only option would be to quit my job and then apply for unemployment?

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Quitting typically disqualifies you from unemployment benefits unless you quit for good cause. You'd need to research whether your family caregiving situation would qualify as good cause under Washington ESD rules.

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This is why the system is broken. People in genuine need can't get help because of technicalities.

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Have you considered applying for Paid Family and Medical Leave (PFML) through Washington State? If you're caring for a family member with a serious health condition, you might qualify for partial wage replacement during your leave.

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I looked into PFML but wasn't sure if caring for a parent qualified. Do you know what the requirements are?

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Yes, caring for a parent with a serious health condition qualifies for family leave under PFML. You'd need medical certification and to meet the work history requirements.

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PFML is way better than unemployment anyway. You get a higher percentage of your wages replaced.

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this whole thing is so confusing with all the different programs. unemployment, pfml, disability... how is anyone supposed to know which one applies to them?

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It is confusing. That's why it's worth talking to someone who knows the system when you're in a complex situation like this.

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agree, i wasted so much time trying to figure it out on my own

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I'm dealing with something similar and have been trying to get clarification from Washington ESD for over a month. Their customer service is impossible to reach. Has anyone else had luck getting through recently?

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Like I mentioned earlier, I used Claimyr to get connected. Made a huge difference in actually talking to someone who could answer my questions definitively.

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I might have to try that. I'm tired of calling and getting hung up on or waiting on hold for hours.

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Same here. The whole system seems designed to frustrate people into giving up.

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THE WHOLE UNEMPLOYMENT SYSTEM IS A JOKE. They make it impossible to get help when you actually need it. You're better off just figuring out how to survive without any government assistance.

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I get the frustration but some people really do need these programs to survive.

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Of course they do, that's why it's so messed up that the system makes it nearly impossible to access.

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just checking - you said unpaid leave right? if your employer was still paying you anything at all during the leave that would definitely disqualify you from unemployment

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Yes, completely unpaid. No salary, no benefits, nothing during the leave period.

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ok good to clarify. but yeah like others said, still being employed is the main issue

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I was on FMLA leave last year and couldn't get unemployment either. The rules are pretty strict about employment status. But definitely look into PFML if you haven't already - that's specifically designed for family caregiving situations.

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Thanks, I think PFML might be my best option. Did you apply for it during your FMLA leave?

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I wish I had known about it then. I found out about PFML after my leave was over unfortunately.

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Quick question - how long have you been employed with this company? There are work history requirements for both unemployment and PFML that you need to meet.

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I've been there for about 3 years, working full-time. Should be enough to meet the requirements for either program.

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That should definitely be enough. You're well over the minimum work history requirements.

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honestly the fact that you can't get unemployment while on unpaid leave is ridiculous. you're not getting income either way, what's the difference?

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The difference is that unemployment insurance is specifically for people who are unemployed and looking for work. Someone on leave isn't available for work, so they don't meet the basic eligibility requirements.

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i get the logic but it still seems unfair to people in tough situations

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Have you talked to your employer about potentially changing your leave status? Sometimes they can work with you on the classification if it helps you access benefits you need.

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That's an interesting idea. I hadn't thought about asking if there were other options for how they classify my time off.

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Worth asking. Some employers are more flexible than others, especially if they understand your situation.

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I used Claimyr a few months ago when I had questions about my claim status and it was super helpful. The Washington ESD agent I spoke with was really knowledgeable and patient. Definitely recommend it if you need to get specific answers about your situation.

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Thanks for the recommendation. It sounds like several people have had good experiences with them.

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I'm definitely going to check them out. I've been trying to reach ESD for weeks with no luck.

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Bottom line - you probably don't qualify for unemployment while on approved leave, but PFML might be exactly what you need for your caregiving situation. That program is specifically designed for people who need to take time off to care for family members.

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Thank you everyone for all the helpful responses. I'm going to look into PFML and see if I can get through to someone to discuss my specific situation.

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Good luck! Hope you're able to get the support you need during this difficult time.

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I went through something very similar when I had to take care of my grandmother last year. You're right that you can't get regular unemployment while on approved leave - I learned that the hard way. But definitely pursue PFML! The application process was pretty straightforward once I got the medical documentation together. You'll need your parent's doctor to fill out forms certifying the serious health condition, but it's worth it. PFML gave me about 90% of my regular pay during the leave. The Washington State PFML website has a good eligibility tool that can help you figure out if you qualify and estimate your benefits. Don't give up - there is help available, just not through the unemployment system.

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This is really helpful! I'm curious about the medical documentation process - how long did it take to get everything together and submitted? I'm worried about delays since my parent's condition is progressing and I need to start the leave soon.

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