Are federal employees eligible for unemployment benefits in Washington state?
I'm a federal employee working at Joint Base Lewis-McChord and I might be facing a reduction in force (RIF) next month. I've been working for the government for 8 years but I'm not sure if federal employees can even apply for Washington ESD unemployment benefits. My supervisor mentioned something about UCFE but I have no idea what that means. Has anyone here been through this process? I'm really confused about whether I should even bother applying through the Washington ESD website or if there's a different process for federal workers.
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Anna Xian
Yes, federal employees ARE eligible for unemployment benefits in Washington! You'll file through Washington ESD just like any other worker. UCFE stands for Unemployment Compensation for Federal Employees - it's the program that covers federal workers. The process is basically the same as regular UI, you just need your SF-8 and SF-50 forms from your federal job.
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TillyCombatwarrior
•Thank you! Do you know if the benefit amount is calculated the same way as regular unemployment? I make about $65,000 annually.
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Anna Xian
•Yes, same calculation. Washington ESD will use your federal wages to determine your weekly benefit amount, just like they do for private sector employees.
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Jungleboo Soletrain
I went through this exact situation last year when my position got eliminated at the VA. You definitely qualify for benefits. The tricky part is getting through to Washington ESD to actually file your claim - their phone lines are always jammed.
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TillyCombatwarrior
•How long did it take you to get through to them? I've heard horror stories about people calling for weeks.
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Jungleboo Soletrain
•It took me about 3 weeks of calling every day before I could even speak to someone. Super frustrating when you're already stressed about losing your job.
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Rajan Walker
•Have you tried using Claimyr? I found them on claimyr.com and they got me through to Washington ESD in like 20 minutes. There's a video demo at https://youtu.be/7DieNd3C7zQ that shows how it works. Saved me so much time and stress.
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Nadia Zaldivar
Federal employees definitely qualify, but make sure you understand the timing rules. Your federal agency needs to provide Washington ESD with your wage information, and sometimes there can be delays in that process. Don't wait until your last day of work to start the application.
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TillyCombatwarrior
•Good point. Should I contact HR about the wage reporting, or does that happen automatically?
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Nadia Zaldivar
•It should happen automatically through the federal reporting system, but it doesn't hurt to mention it to your HR department when you're processing out.
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Lukas Fitzgerald
wait, federal employees can get unemployment?? I thought government workers had different rules about this stuff. I've been working for the post office for 3 years and had no idea
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Anna Xian
•Postal employees are actually covered under a different system called UCX (Unemployment Compensation for Ex-servicemembers), not UCFE. But yes, you can still get unemployment benefits through Washington ESD if you lose your job.
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Lukas Fitzgerald
•oh wow thanks for clarifying that! good to know i have some protection if something happens
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Ev Luca
The federal employee unemployment process is pretty straightforward once you get through to Washington ESD. The main difference is that your former federal agency acts as your 'employer' for the claim, so if there are any issues with your claim they'll contact your old agency directly.
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TillyCombatwarrior
•That's helpful to know. Do you think the RIF documentation I get from my agency will be enough, or do I need additional paperwork?
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Ev Luca
•The RIF notice should be sufficient to show you're unemployed through no fault of your own. Keep copies of everything though - your SF-50, SF-8, and the RIF notification.
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Avery Davis
This is all news to me! I work for the Forest Service and always assumed we couldn't get regular unemployment. What about job search requirements? Do federal employees have to do the same work search activities as everyone else?
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Anna Xian
•Yes, same job search requirements apply. You'll need to log your job search activities in WorkSourceWA and meet the minimum requirements each week you claim benefits.
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Avery Davis
•Got it, thanks! At least the USAJOBS searches should count toward that requirement.
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Collins Angel
Just want to add that if you're a federal employee who's been furloughed (not permanently laid off), the rules might be different. During government shutdowns, federal employees can sometimes get unemployment for the furlough period.
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TillyCombatwarrior
•Good distinction. In my case it's a permanent RIF, not a furlough, so I think I'm in the regular UCFE category.
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Collins Angel
•Yeah, permanent RIF definitely qualifies you for regular unemployment benefits through UCFE. Just make sure you apply as soon as your employment ends.
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Marcelle Drum
The Washington ESD system is SO backed up right now. I've been trying to get through for my regular UI claim for two weeks. Federal employees might have an easier time since UCFE claims are less common, but still expect delays.
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Rajan Walker
•That's exactly why I used Claimyr when I needed to reach Washington ESD. Instead of calling hundreds of times, they handled the waiting and got me through to an actual person who could help with my claim status.
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Marcelle Drum
•I might have to look into that. This calling every day thing is exhausting.
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Tate Jensen
I worked for Customs and Border Protection until last year and got unemployment through Washington ESD with no issues. The benefit amount was based on my federal salary, and I didn't have any problems with the weekly claims. Just make sure you keep good records of your job search activities.
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TillyCombatwarrior
•How long did your claim take to get approved? I'm worried about the timing since I have a mortgage to pay.
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Tate Jensen
•Mine was approved within about 10 days, which seemed pretty standard. The key is making sure all your federal employment documentation is in order when you apply.
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Adaline Wong
Does anyone know if the waiting week applies to federal employees too? I thought I read somewhere that UCFE might be different.
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Anna Xian
•Washington eliminated the waiting week for all unemployment claims, including UCFE, so you should be eligible for benefits starting with your first week of unemployment.
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Adaline Wong
•That's great news! Thanks for the clarification.
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Gabriel Ruiz
Quick question - if I'm a federal contractor, not a direct federal employee, do I still qualify for UCFE or would I file regular UI?
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Nadia Zaldivar
•Federal contractors file regular UI, not UCFE. UCFE is only for direct federal employees. Your contracting company would be your employer for unemployment purposes.
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Gabriel Ruiz
•Ah, that makes sense. Thanks for clearing that up!
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Misterclamation Skyblue
I'm going through a federal RIF right now too. Has anyone had experience with whether you can collect unemployment while you're in the process of applying for other federal positions? I have a few applications pending.
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Anna Xian
•Yes, you can collect unemployment while applying for other jobs, including federal positions. Just make sure you're available for work and continue meeting the job search requirements.
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Misterclamation Skyblue
•Perfect, that's what I was hoping to hear. The federal hiring process takes forever so I'll definitely need the unemployment bridge.
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Peyton Clarke
The federal employee unemployment process saved me when I got laid off from the Department of Energy. One thing to watch out for - if you have unused annual leave that gets paid out, that might affect when your benefits start. Washington ESD considers it wages.
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TillyCombatwarrior
•Oh no, I have about 200 hours of annual leave saved up. Will that delay my benefits significantly?
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Peyton Clarke
•It might delay the start of your benefits by a few weeks depending on the payout amount. You'll need to report it when you file your claim and Washington ESD will calculate the impact.
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Vince Eh
I had to use that Claimyr service someone mentioned earlier because I couldn't get through to Washington ESD on my own. Worked great - they called me back when they got an agent on the line. Worth it when you're dealing with federal employment stuff that can be confusing for the regular customer service folks.
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TillyCombatwarrior
•I'm definitely going to look into that. Sounds like it could save me a lot of hassle.
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Vince Eh
•Yeah, especially for UCFE questions. The regular Washington ESD agents don't deal with federal employee claims as often, so having someone who can get you to the right person helps.
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Sophia Gabriel
Just a heads up - make sure you understand the difference between voluntary and involuntary separation from federal service. RIF is definitely involuntary, but if you take a voluntary early retirement or buyout, the unemployment eligibility rules might be different.
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TillyCombatwarrior
•Good point. Mine is definitely involuntary - I'm not eligible for retirement and they're eliminating my position entirely.
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Sophia Gabriel
•Then you should be all set for UCFE benefits. The involuntary nature of the separation makes it straightforward.
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Tobias Lancaster
Federal employees sometimes don't realize they're eligible for unemployment because we have different retirement systems and benefits. But unemployment is totally separate from federal retirement - you can definitely collect benefits if you lose your job involuntarily.
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TillyCombatwarrior
•That's reassuring. I was worried that having FERS retirement contributions might somehow disqualify me.
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Tobias Lancaster
•Nope, FERS and unemployment are completely separate programs. Your retirement contributions don't affect your unemployment eligibility at all.
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Ezra Beard
The timing worked out well for me when I got RIF'd - I applied for unemployment the day after my last day of work and got my first payment about two weeks later. Don't overthink the process, it's really similar to regular unemployment once you get started.
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TillyCombatwarrior
•That's encouraging to hear. I've been stressing about this for weeks but it sounds like it's more straightforward than I thought.
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Ezra Beard
•Yeah, the hardest part is just getting through to Washington ESD to file the initial claim. After that, the weekly claims are pretty routine.
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Statiia Aarssizan
Don't forget that you'll need to register with WorkSourceWA as part of the unemployment requirements. It's the same for federal employees as everyone else - you have to show you're actively looking for work.
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TillyCombatwarrior
•Good reminder. I should probably set that up before I even file the unemployment claim.
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Statiia Aarssizan
•That's smart. Having your WorkSourceWA account ready can speed up the process when you file for benefits.
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Sean Murphy
I'm a newcomer here but wanted to share that I just went through this process as a federal employee myself. The information everyone's shared is spot on - you absolutely qualify for unemployment benefits through Washington ESD under the UCFE program. One thing I'd add is that when you call Washington ESD, specifically mention that you're a federal employee filing under UCFE. This helps them route you to the right specialist who understands federal employment separations. Also, if you're having trouble getting through by phone, you can start the application online at esd.wa.gov, which might be easier than waiting on hold. The online system will ask for the same information and you can always call later if you need help with specific questions about your federal employment history.
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Andre Lefebvre
•Thanks for joining the conversation and sharing your recent experience! That's really helpful advice about mentioning UCFE specifically when calling Washington ESD. I didn't realize they had specialists who handle federal employee claims differently. Starting online first sounds like a good strategy too - I've been dreading the phone calls based on what everyone's said about wait times. Did you find the online application pretty straightforward for federal employment information, or did you still need to call for clarification on anything?
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