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Ashley Simian

Who pays Washington ESD unemployment for federal workers - confused about coverage

I'm really confused about unemployment coverage for federal employees in Washington state. I worked for a federal agency for 3 years and just got laid off due to budget cuts. When I try to file my claim with Washington ESD, I'm getting mixed information about who actually pays the benefits. Some sources say it's the federal government through UCFE (Unemployment Compensation for Federal Employees) but others mention state involvement. My former HR department wasn't much help either. Has anyone else dealt with this situation? I just want to make sure I'm filing correctly and understand where my benefits are actually coming from.

Federal employees are covered under UCFE which is administered by the state but funded by the federal government. You still file through Washington ESD like any other claimant, but the feds reimburse the state for your benefits. The process is basically the same from your perspective.

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That makes sense, so I should just file normally through the Washington ESD website then?

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Exactly, use the same SecureAccess Washington login and file like anyone else. The behind-the-scenes funding doesn't change your filing process.

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I went through the same thing when I got furloughed from the VA hospital last year. The paperwork is confusing but you definitely file with Washington ESD. They handle everything even though technically the federal government is paying for it.

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How long did it take for your claim to get approved? I'm worried about delays since it involves federal employment.

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Mine took about 2 weeks which seemed normal. The federal aspect didn't seem to slow things down much.

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Had the same confusion when I left my postal service job. Spent hours trying to call Washington ESD to get clarity on this exact question. Finally found claimyr.com which helped me get through to an actual agent who explained the whole UCFE process. There's even a demo video at https://youtu.be/7DieNd3C7zQ that shows how it works. Way easier than sitting on hold for hours.

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Never heard of that service, is it legit? I'm always skeptical of third-party services for government stuff.

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Yeah it's real, just helps you navigate the phone system to reach Washington ESD agents faster. Saved me tons of time when I needed answers about my federal employment benefits.

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The key thing to understand is that while the federal government ultimately pays for UCFE benefits, Washington ESD administers the program under federal guidelines. Your benefit amount is calculated the same way as regular UI but based on your federal wages. Make sure you have your SF-8 form from your agency showing your earnings.

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I don't think I got an SF-8 form. Should I contact my old HR department for this?

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Yes, you'll need that or your pay stubs from the federal job. Washington ESD needs to verify your federal wages to calculate your benefits properly.

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this is so confusing why cant they just make it simple. i worked for forest service and had no idea about any of this UCFE stuff until after i filed

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The system is complicated but once you understand it, the process is straightforward. Federal employees get the same protections as everyone else.

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yeah but they should explain this stuff better when you leave federal employment

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I'm currently dealing with an adjudication issue on my UCFE claim. Washington ESD is saying they need additional verification from my federal employer but my agency is being slow to respond. Anyone else have delays like this?

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Federal agencies can be really slow with unemployment paperwork. You might need to follow up with both your old HR and Washington ESD.

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That's what I'm afraid of. Don't want to be stuck in adjudication limbo while they sort this out.

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Important clarification - UCFE claims follow federal eligibility rules, not Washington state rules. So things like job search requirements and disqualification reasons might be slightly different than regular UI claims. The Washington ESD website has a specific section about federal employee claims that explains these differences.

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Are the job search requirements the same? I'm already registered with WorkSourceWA like they told me to.

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Generally yes, but check the federal employee section on Washington ESD's site to be sure. The basic requirements are similar but there might be some nuances.

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Wait so if I worked for both federal and state agencies in the past year, how does that affect my claim? Do they combine the wages or keep them separate?

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If you have wages from both federal and non-federal employment in your base period, Washington ESD will combine them all to calculate your weekly benefit amount. The funding sources get sorted out on the backend.

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That's actually really helpful to know, thanks!

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Just a heads up - make sure you report any federal pension or retirement payments you might be receiving. UCFE rules are pretty strict about deducting retirement income from benefits, even more so than regular UI.

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I'm not getting any pension yet but good to know for the future.

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Yeah it caught me off guard when I had to report my small federal retirement payment. Better to be upfront about it.

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One more thing about getting help - when I needed to speak with someone about my UCFE claim specifics, regular customer service couldn't always answer federal employee questions. Had to use that claimyr service again to reach someone in the federal claims unit who actually knew the UCFE rules.

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That's really good to know, I might need to try that for my adjudication issue.

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Yeah it's worth it when you need specific answers about federal employment benefits that regular agents might not know.

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thanks everyone for the info this thread helped me understand my situation better. filing my claim today

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Good luck with your claim! Remember to keep copies of all your federal employment documentation.

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still think they should just have one system instead of making federal employees jump through different hoops

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The separate funding is actually beneficial - it means federal layoffs don't impact state unemployment trust funds.

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i guess that makes sense from a budget perspective

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Update: I filed my claim through Washington ESD and it went smoothly. Thanks everyone for clarifying that I just use the normal process even though it's federally funded. Really appreciate all the help!

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Glad it worked out! Hope your claim gets processed quickly.

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Great to hear! The system works even if it's confusing at first.

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For anyone else reading this later - make sure you select 'federal employee' when it asks about your employer type during the filing process. That helps Washington ESD route your claim correctly from the start.

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Yes I noticed that option! It wasn't totally obvious what it meant until I read this thread.

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Exactly, that little detail can save processing time later.

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Quick update on my adjudication - finally got resolved after my agency sent the verification paperwork. Took 5 weeks total but my benefits were backdated. Patience is key with federal claims apparently.

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5 weeks is pretty typical for adjudication unfortunately. At least you got the backpay.

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Yeah the backpay made the wait bearable. Just glad it's finally sorted out.

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One last question - if I find new federal employment while on UCFE, do I report it the same way as any other job? Through the weekly claim certification?

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Yes, report all work and earnings through your weekly claims regardless of whether it's federal, state, or private employment.

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Perfect, thanks for confirming that!

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Just want to mention one more time for anyone still struggling to get through to Washington ESD about federal claims - that claimyr service really does work for reaching the right agents who know UCFE rules. Worth checking out if you're stuck.

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I'll keep that in mind if I run into issues with my claim.

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Good idea to have options when dealing with government agencies.

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Final thought - while UCFE is federally funded, you still need to meet Washington state's able and available requirements for work. Don't assume federal employment gives you different work search obligations.

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Good point, I'm treating it like any other unemployment claim in terms of job searching.

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That's the right approach. The funding source doesn't change your obligations as a claimant.

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This whole thread was super helpful. I had no idea about the UCFE program until I needed it. Government employment has so many rules!

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Glad the discussion helped! Federal employment does have unique aspects but the unemployment system handles it pretty well.

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wish i had found this thread before spending 3 hours on hold with washington esd trying to get answers about my federal job claim

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That's exactly why I mentioned claimyr earlier - nobody should have to waste hours on hold for basic information.

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definitely going to check that out if i need to call again

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