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Washington ESD federal unemployment tax - who pays what exactly?

Got a weird question about federal unemployment taxes after dealing with my Washington ESD claim. My employer laid me off last month and I'm getting UI benefits now, but I'm confused about who actually pays the federal unemployment tax that funds this stuff. Is it just employers or do employees pay into it too? I thought I saw something about SUTA and FUTA on my old paystubs but never really understood what those meant. Anyone know how this works with Washington ESD specifically?

FUTA (Federal Unemployment Tax Act) is paid entirely by employers, not employees. In Washington, employers pay both federal unemployment tax (FUTA) at 6% on the first $7,000 of each employee's wages, but they get a credit that reduces it to 0.6% if the state's unemployment program meets federal standards. Washington ESD administers the state portion (SUTA - State Unemployment Tax Act) which varies by employer based on their experience rating.

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So I never paid anything into unemployment insurance as an employee? That seems weird since I'm the one getting benefits now.

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Correct - unemployment insurance is entirely employer-funded in Washington state. Your employer paid both federal and state unemployment taxes on your wages, which is why you're eligible for benefits now.

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wait so my employer was paying taxes for my unemployment benefits this whole time and I never knew?? that's crazy. no wonder some companies are so picky about firing people

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Yep, and if they have a lot of former employees filing for unemployment, their tax rate goes up. It's called experience rating - companies with more claims pay higher rates to Washington ESD.

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that makes so much sense now why my old boss was always trying to get people to quit instead of laying them off

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The federal unemployment tax thing gets complicated because different states have different setups. In Washington, we don't have state income tax so the unemployment system works differently than places like California or New York. Washington ESD gets funding from employer taxes but the federal government also chips in during high unemployment periods.

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Yeah during COVID the feds paid for all those extra programs like PUA and PEUC, but those are long gone now. Back to regular state unemployment funded by employer taxes.

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Exactly. Now it's just regular UI benefits funded by what employers pay to Washington ESD. Much simpler system but also lower benefit amounts.

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I work in HR and can confirm that employers pay both FUTA and SUTA taxes. For Washington state, the SUTA rate varies based on the employer's experience rating - new employers pay a standard rate but established companies pay more or less depending on how many former employees have filed unemployment claims. It's actually a pretty big expense for businesses.

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What's the typical SUTA rate in Washington? I'm starting a small business and trying to budget for all these taxes.

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New employers in Washington typically pay around 2.7% on the first $62,500 of each employee's wages for 2025. But it can range from 0.23% to 6.02% depending on your experience rating once you've been in business a few years.

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Those rates change every year too based on the unemployment trust fund balance. Washington ESD adjusts them annually.

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so basically every paycheck I ever got my employer was paying extra taxes on top of my wages just in case I got laid off someday? that's actually pretty cool that the system works that way

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Yeah it's like insurance for workers. Your employer pays the premiums and you get the benefits if you lose your job through no fault of your own.

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Wish more people understood this. Too many folks think unemployment benefits are some kind of welfare when it's actually insurance that was paid for by employers.

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The wage base for FUTA is only $7,000 per employee per year, which seems really low for 2025. That means if you make more than $7,000 annually, your employer stops paying federal unemployment tax on your wages after that point. But Washington state unemployment tax applies to much higher wage levels.

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Yeah the federal wage base hasn't been updated in forever. Meanwhile Washington's wage base for SUTA goes up to like $62,500 or something for 2025.

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Exactly - $62,500 for Washington state unemployment tax versus only $7,000 for federal. Shows you how outdated the federal system is.

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This explains why some employers get so weird about unemployment claims. If their tax rate goes up based on claims, they have a financial incentive to fight legitimate claims or try to get people to quit instead of being laid off.

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Yep, and that's why Washington ESD has to investigate when employers protest claims. Sometimes it's legitimate (like if someone was fired for misconduct) but sometimes employers just don't want their rates to go up.

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I had an employer try to claim I was fired for cause when I was clearly laid off due to budget cuts. Had to go through a whole appeals process with Washington ESD to get my benefits.

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One thing that confused me was seeing different acronyms on my paystubs. FUTA is federal unemployment tax, SUTA is state unemployment tax, but sometimes you'll see SUI (State Unemployment Insurance) or other variations. They all basically mean the same thing - taxes your employer pays to fund unemployment benefits.

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Yeah the acronyms are confusing. In Washington it's technically called the Employment Security tax rather than unemployment tax, which is why you see Washington ESD instead of Washington Department of Unemployment or whatever.

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That makes sense. Employment Security Department sounds more official than Unemployment Department.

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The federal unemployment tax credit system is actually pretty smart. States that maintain solvent unemployment programs get a credit that reduces the federal tax from 6% to 0.6%. It incentivizes states to run their programs properly and not rely too heavily on federal bailouts.

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What happens if a state loses that credit? Do employers have to pay the full 6% federal rate?

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Yes, if a state has outstanding federal loans for their unemployment program, employers in that state lose the credit and pay higher federal unemployment taxes until the debt is repaid.

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Fortunately Washington has always maintained a pretty healthy unemployment trust fund, so employers here get the full credit.

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just to be clear - as an employee I don't pay anything for unemployment insurance? not even like a small deduction from my paycheck?

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Correct - unemployment insurance is 100% employer-funded in Washington state. You might see other deductions like Social Security, Medicare, or state disability insurance, but not unemployment.

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ok good to know. I was worried I missed something when I was working and would owe money back or something

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The experience rating system is actually pretty fair. Companies that rarely lay people off pay lower unemployment tax rates, while companies with frequent layoffs pay higher rates. It encourages businesses to maintain stable employment when possible.

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Makes sense from a policy perspective. Companies that create more unemployment claims should pay more into the system that funds those benefits.

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Though sometimes layoffs are unavoidable due to economic conditions. At least there's a system in place to help workers when it happens.

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I always wondered why unemployment benefits vary so much between states. Now I understand it's because each state sets their own tax rates and benefit levels, even though there's also a federal component to the funding.

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Yeah Washington's benefits are pretty decent compared to some states. The weekly benefit amount here goes up to like $929 per week if you earned enough in your base period.

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That's way better than states that cap benefits at like $300 per week. Shows the value of having employers pay higher state unemployment taxes.

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Quick question - if I worked in multiple states before moving to Washington, does that affect who pays the unemployment taxes? Like if my previous employer was in Oregon but I'm filing in Washington?

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You typically file in the state where you worked most recently, but Washington ESD can combine wages from multiple states through interstate agreements. The taxes were paid by each employer in their respective states.

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Good to know. I was worried about some kind of tax gap between states affecting my eligibility.

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Thanks everyone for explaining this. I feel like they should teach this stuff in school so people understand how unemployment insurance actually works. It's not a handout - it's insurance that employers pay for on behalf of their workers.

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Totally agree. Most people have no idea how any of this works until they need to file a claim. Would save a lot of confusion and stigma if it was better understood.

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Yeah and it would help people understand why the system sometimes seems slow or bureaucratic. Washington ESD has to verify everything because it's insurance money, not just free government funds.

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This thread really helped me understand something I never thought about before. I'm currently on unemployment after getting laid off from a tech startup, and I always assumed there was some kind of employee contribution I was missing. It's actually pretty reassuring to know that my former employer was paying into this system the whole time I worked there. Makes me feel less guilty about collecting benefits since it's literally insurance they paid for. Also explains why some companies are so reluctant to do layoffs - didn't realize their tax rates could go up based on claims history.

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