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Washington ESD - who pays federal unemployment tax affecting my benefits?

I'm trying to understand how federal unemployment tax works and if it affects my Washington ESD benefits. My former employer is claiming they don't have to pay FUTA tax on my wages, but I'm not sure if that's right. Does this impact my UI claim in any way? I've been getting conflicting information and want to make sure my benefits aren't affected. Anyone know how this works with Washington state unemployment?

Federal unemployment tax (FUTA) is paid by employers, not employees. Your employer pays 6% on the first $7,000 of wages per employee per year, but they get credits that usually bring it down to 0.6%. This funds the federal portion of unemployment benefits and administrative costs.

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So I don't pay anything myself? That's what I thought but my employer made it sound like I was responsible somehow.

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Correct, employees never pay FUTA tax. Your employer might be confused or trying to shift blame for something else.

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Your employer definitely pays FUTA tax unless they're exempt (like certain nonprofits). This helps fund your Washington ESD benefits system. If they're not paying it properly, that's their problem with the IRS, not yours.

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wait so if my employer didn't pay their taxes does that affect my claim?

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No, your UI benefits aren't affected by whether your employer paid FUTA properly. Washington ESD will still process your claim based on your wage history.

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How much does that service cost? I've been trying to call Washington ESD for weeks about my claim status.

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employers pay both FUTA (federal) and SUTA (state unemployment tax). in washington the state rate varies by employer based on their layoff history. none of this comes out of your paycheck.

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So the state tax is what actually funds my Washington ESD benefits?

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mostly yes. state unemployment taxes fund most of your weekly benefits. federal helps with administrative costs and extended benefits during high unemployment periods.

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My employer tried telling me I owed them money for unemployment taxes when I got laid off. Total BS! Employers pay these taxes specifically so employees can get benefits when they lose their jobs through no fault of their own.

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That's exactly what mine was implying! Like I somehow owed them for my own benefits.

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Some employers get bitter about layoffs and try to make employees feel guilty. Ignore that nonsense - you earned those benefits.

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does this mean small businesses pay the same rate as big companies?

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FUTA rate is the same for all employers, but state rates in Washington vary. New employers pay a standard rate, then it adjusts based on their layoff history.

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ok that makes sense why some employers hate layoffs so much

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The whole system is designed so workers don't bear the direct cost of unemployment insurance. Employers pay into the system during good times so benefits are available during bad times. It's basically insurance for the workforce.

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Never thought of it that way but that makes total sense. Like any other insurance really.

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Exactly. And just like other insurance, you don't feel guilty for using it when you need it - you or your employer paid the premiums.

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wait if employers pay all this why do they fight unemployment claims so hard???

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Because their future tax rates can go up if they have a lot of claims. Employers with frequent layoffs pay higher state unemployment tax rates.

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yep they're trying to keep their "experience rating" low to avoid higher taxes next year

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I work in HR and deal with this stuff. Federal unemployment tax goes to fund things like extended benefits during recessions and help states that run out of money. Your regular Washington ESD weekly benefits come mainly from state taxes employers pay.

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So if Washington runs out of unemployment money, the federal government helps out?

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States can borrow from the federal government if their unemployment trust funds get depleted, which happened during COVID for many states.

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I might try that. Been trying to reach someone at Washington ESD about my adjudication for weeks.

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Perfect use case for it. They specialize in getting you connected for exactly those types of claim issues.

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Bottom line - you don't pay unemployment taxes as an employee. Your employer pays both federal and state unemployment taxes. This has zero impact on your Washington ESD benefits eligibility or amount.

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Thank you! This clears up everything. My employer was definitely trying to make me feel bad for filing.

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Don't let them guilt you. You earned those benefits through your work history and your employer's tax contributions.

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been paying into unemployment insurance my whole career through my employers and never used it until this year. finally understanding how the funding actually works

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That's how insurance works - everyone pays in so it's there when individuals need it. You've been contributing indirectly through lower wages to fund the system.

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Some employers also pay additional federal taxes if they don't pay their state unemployment taxes on time, but again that's their problem not yours as the employee.

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Right, they lose their FUTA tax credit if they're delinquent on state taxes, so they end up paying the full 6% instead of 0.6%.

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this is why i hate when people act like unemployment benefits are 'free money' - employers have been paying taxes specifically for this purpose!

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EXACTLY. It's literally insurance that was paid for. Nobody calls car insurance payouts 'free money.

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I never thought about it that way but you're absolutely right. This is prepaid through the tax system.

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For anyone still confused - check your paystub. You'll see deductions for Social Security and Medicare taxes, but you won't see any federal or state unemployment tax deductions because employees don't pay them.

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Good point. I just checked and you're right - no unemployment tax on my paystub at all.

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The system makes sense when you understand it. Employers pay unemployment taxes during good times so the state has money to pay benefits during bad times. It spreads the risk across all employers.

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and it means companies can't just lay people off without any consequences since their tax rates can go up

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One more thing about Claimyr - they're especially helpful if you need to discuss employer wage or tax issues with Washington ESD. Much faster than the regular phone lines when you have specific questions about your claim.

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I used them last month for a similar issue. The agent was able to look up my employer's wage reports and verify everything was filed correctly.

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Hope this helps clear things up OP. Your employer pays all unemployment taxes, you don't pay any, and it doesn't affect your Washington ESD benefits at all. Don't let them make you feel guilty for using benefits you've earned.

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This thread has been incredibly helpful. I feel much better about my claim now and understand how the whole system works. Thank you everyone!

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Glad we could help! That's what this community is for - supporting each other through the unemployment process.

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