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Alejandro Castro

Which of the following payments are taxable for Washington ESD unemployment - confused about federal tax rules

Hey everyone, I'm really confused about something and hoping someone can help clear this up. I've been getting unemployment benefits from Washington ESD for the past few months and now I'm trying to figure out my taxes. I keep reading conflicting information about which unemployment payments are actually taxable for federal purposes. Some sources say all unemployment is taxable, others mention exceptions. Can anyone break this down for me? I received regular UI benefits, and I want to make sure I'm handling the tax situation correctly. Did Washington ESD automatically withhold federal taxes from anyone else's payments? I'm worried I'm going to owe a huge amount come tax time.

All unemployment compensation is generally taxable income for federal tax purposes, including regular UI benefits from Washington ESD. The state should have sent you a 1099-G form showing the total amount you received. You can choose to have federal taxes withheld from your weekly claims when you file them.

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Thanks! I did get the 1099-G but wasn't sure if I needed to report all of it. So even the weekly $350 payments I got are all taxable?

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Yes, every dollar of unemployment benefits is taxable income. The amount on your 1099-G is what you'll need to report on your federal return.

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I learned this the hard way last year - didn't have taxes withheld and ended up owing like $2000. Make sure you set aside money if you didn't choose the withholding option when filing your weekly claims!

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Oh wow, that's exactly what I'm afraid of. I didn't have anything withheld because I didn't know I could.

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You can still make quarterly estimated tax payments to avoid a big bill. Check the IRS website for the form 1040ES.

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If you're having trouble getting through to Washington ESD about tax withholding options or need to update your preferences, I found this service called Claimyr that actually gets you connected to ESD agents. They have a website at claimyr.com and there's a demo video at https://youtu.be/7DieNd3C7zQ that shows how it works. I used it when I couldn't get through their regular phone lines to ask about my 1099-G form.

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Interesting, never heard of that service. Does it actually work for getting through to ESD?

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Yeah it worked for me. Saved me hours of trying to call and getting busy signals or being hung up on.

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wait so if I got like $8000 total in unemployment last year that's ALL taxable?? I thought there was some kind of exemption or something

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Unfortunately yes, all $8000 would be taxable income. There was a temporary exemption for up to $10,200 in 2020 but that was a one-time thing during COVID.

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ugh this is gonna hurt come tax time. wish someone had explained this better when I started claiming

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The confusion might be coming from the fact that unemployment benefits aren't subject to Social Security or Medicare taxes, but they are definitely subject to federal income tax. It's treated just like wages for income tax purposes.

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That's a good point - so no FICA taxes but still income tax. Thanks for clarifying that distinction.

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Exactly! And if you're married filing jointly, your spouse's income affects how much of your unemployment might be taxed too.

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Pro tip: when you're filing your weekly claims on the Washington ESD website, there's a section where you can choose to have 10% withheld for federal taxes. I wish I had done this from the beginning instead of scrambling to pay estimated taxes quarterly.

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Is it too late to start having taxes withheld now? I'm still collecting benefits.

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No, you can change that setting when you file your next weekly claim. Just look for the tax withholding option.

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I'm a tax preparer and I see this confusion every year. ALL unemployment compensation is taxable - regular state UI, federal extensions when they exist, everything. The only time it wasn't was that special COVID provision in 2020. Make sure you report the full amount from your 1099-G.

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Thank you for the professional perspective! Do you see a lot of people get surprised by the tax bill?

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Unfortunately yes. Many people don't realize unemployment is taxable income and don't plan for it. Always better to have taxes withheld upfront.

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This whole tax situation is so frustrating. You're already struggling financially and then they hit you with taxes on the money that's supposed to help you survive. The system is ridiculous.

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I totally get the frustration but it's been this way for decades. At least now we have the option to have taxes withheld automatically.

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Yeah I guess, just wish they made it clearer when you first apply for benefits that this is coming.

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Just to add another data point - I used that Claimyr service someone mentioned earlier when I needed to talk to ESD about my 1099-G being incorrect. It actually worked and I got through to someone who could fix the issue. Way better than spending hours on hold.

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How much does something like that cost? Seems like you shouldn't have to pay extra just to talk to a government agency.

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I agree it shouldn't be necessary, but when you need to resolve tax document issues quickly, it's worth it to actually reach someone.

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The 1099-G form from Washington ESD will show your total benefits in box 1, and any federal taxes withheld in box 4. If box 4 is empty, that means no taxes were withheld and you'll need to pay taxes on the full amount when you file your return.

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Mine shows the full amount in box 1 and box 4 is blank, so I definitely need to prepare for a tax bill. Thanks for explaining what those boxes mean.

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Same situation here. Going to start having taxes withheld going forward to avoid this next year.

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wait can someone clarify - is there a difference between regular unemployment and other types? Like if you were on standby status or something?

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Standby status still results in taxable unemployment benefits. Any unemployment compensation you receive, regardless of the specific program or status, is taxable income.

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ok good to know, thanks. I was on standby for a few weeks and wasn't sure if that was different.

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This thread is really helpful. I had no idea about the tax implications when I started collecting. Does anyone know if Washington state taxes unemployment benefits too?

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Washington doesn't have a state income tax, so you only need to worry about federal taxes on your unemployment benefits.

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Oh right, I forgot we don't have state income tax here. One less thing to worry about at least!

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I made the mistake of not withholding taxes from my unemployment last year and ended up owing $1800. This year I immediately set up the 10% withholding when I had to file for benefits again. Learn from my mistake!

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Ouch, that's a painful lesson. Did you have to set up payment plans with the IRS?

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Thankfully I had some savings I could use, but it definitely hurt. The 10% withholding is definitely the way to go.

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For anyone still confused about this - the IRS has a specific page about unemployment compensation being taxable. It's been this way for years, with that one exception in 2020. Don't let anyone tell you unemployment isn't taxable income.

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Thanks, I'll look that up. I think I was getting confused by old articles that mentioned the 2020 exception.

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Yeah there's a lot of outdated information floating around from the pandemic years. The current rule is simple - all unemployment is taxable.

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Just want to mention that if you're getting unemployment and also have a part-time job, both sources of income are taxable. Don't forget to account for your work income too when planning for taxes.

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Good point. I was working part-time while collecting and almost forgot about those W-2s since the amounts were smaller.

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Exactly! Every little bit adds up when tax time comes around.

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I tried using that Claimyr thing someone mentioned and it actually got me through to ESD when I needed to ask about tax withholding. Worth checking out if you can't get through their regular lines. The demo video explained it pretty well.

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Did you have to wait long once you got connected?

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Not really, maybe 10 minutes on hold after getting transferred. Way better than the hours I wasted trying to call directly.

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Bottom line for anyone reading this - unemployment benefits are taxable income, period. Plan accordingly by either having taxes withheld or setting money aside. Don't get caught off guard like so many of us did!

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This whole thread has been super helpful. Going to start withholding taxes immediately and set aside some money for what I already received. Thanks everyone!

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Smart move. Better to be prepared than scrambling at tax time.

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