Will moving internationally affect my Social Security survivor benefits for me and my young children?
I'm currently receiving Social Security survivor benefits for myself (35) and my two children (ages 6 and 3) after my husband passed away last year. I'm considering some international job opportunities that would require us to relocate overseas for 3-5 years, but I'm terrified we might lose our survivor benefits. Does anyone know if SSA continues paying survivor benefits if you live outside the US? I've tried calling the SSA office multiple times but keep getting disconnected. My benefits are our financial lifeline while I rebuild my career and I can't risk losing them. Any advice from people who've moved internationally while receiving survivor benefits would be so appreciated!
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Eduardo Silva
I went through something similar when I moved to Spain with my kids after my wife passed. Generally, SSA will continue sending survivor benefits to US citizens living abroad, but there are some countries where they can't send payments (like Cuba, North Korea, etc). The bigger issue is that your children's benefits might be affected if they become non-US residents for too long. You should definitely get this clarified before making any decisions. Check out the SSA's "Your Payments While You Are Outside The United States" publication on their website.
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Freya Andersen
•Thank you so much for sharing your experience! The job opportunity is in Australia, so I guess that's not on any restricted list. Do you remember if there was any paperwork you had to fill out before leaving? Did they continue direct depositing into your US bank account or did you have to set up something else?
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Leila Haddad
my brother moved to cAnada with his kids and kept getting the checks no problem. but i think u need to tell them ur leaving so they dont think something fishy is going on when they see foreighn atm withdrawls. call ahead of time.
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Emma Johnson
•There's actually a major difference between Canada and other countries though! Canada has a special agreement with the US for Social Security. Not all countries do! My cousin lost her benefits when she moved to Thailand for 8 months because she didn't realize there were different rules. Just be CAREFUL!
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Ravi Patel
As others have mentioned, it depends on the country, but there's more to consider here. The SSA generally continues paying survivor benefits to US citizens living abroad, but they follow specific rules: 1. Your own survivor benefits as a widow/widower caring for children under 16 should continue in most countries 2. Your children's survivor benefits also continue in most countries, but there might be residency requirements if they stay outside the US for extended periods 3. Some countries have "totalization agreements" with the US that make benefit administration easier 4. You'll need to complete an annual questionnaire to verify your status Before making any decisions, I'd recommend getting definitive answers from SSA. Their publication #05-10137 "Your Payments While You Are Outside The United States" covers this topic in detail.
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Freya Andersen
•Thank you for such detailed information! I'll definitely look up that publication. Do you happen to know if there's a specific form I need to fill out to notify SSA before leaving? I'm really worried about doing this right since we depend on these payments.
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Astrid Bergström
I've spent HOURS trying to get through to SSA about international benefits questions and kept getting disconnected or waiting forever. Finally used Claimyr (claimyr.com) and got through to a real person in under 20 minutes! They have this video showing how it works: https://youtu.be/Z-BRbJw3puU. Totally worth it to actually speak with someone who could answer my specific questions about international benefits. The agent I spoke with explained everything about how my mother's survivor benefits would work during her 2-year stay in Portugal.
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Freya Andersen
•Thank you! I've been trying to get through for weeks. I'll check this out - I really need to speak with someone directly to make sure I understand all the requirements before making any decisions about moving.
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PixelPrincess
There's a lot of confusion about this topic, so let me clarify a few things: 1. For US citizens, survivor benefits typically continue regardless of where you live (with a few restricted countries as exceptions) 2. Non-citizens may face more restrictions after 6 months outside the US 3. You MUST notify SSA before leaving (use form SSA-21 "Notice of Intended Residence Outside United States") 4. You'll need to complete form SSA-7162 or SSA-7161 annually while abroad 5. Consider how you'll receive payments - direct deposit to a US bank is usually simplest Also, your children's citizenship status matters. If they're US citizens, their benefits typically continue. If not, different rules may apply after 6 months abroad.
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Omar Farouk
•My cousin kept getting her survivor checks when she moved to Mexico but then they suddenly stopped after like 8 months and she had to send in a bunch of paperwork!!! I think there was something about proving she was still alive? They made her go to the US embassy for something. Just be prepared for extra hassle!!
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Emma Johnson
BEWARE of tax implications!!! The US will STILL tax your Social Security benefits even if you're living abroad! AND the foreign country might ALSO want to tax that income! You could end up paying DOUBLE TAXES on your benefits!!! This happened to my friend who moved to Germany with her kids. She had NO IDEA about this and ended up with a huge unexpected tax bill. You NEED to consult with an international tax expert before making any decisions!!!
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Freya Andersen
•Oh no, I hadn't even thought about the tax situation. That's really concerning. Australia has high tax rates too. Does anyone know if there are tax treaties that prevent double taxation on Social Security benefits specifically?
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Ravi Patel
•This is correct - tax implications are important to consider. The US has tax treaties with many countries (including Australia) that often address Social Security benefits specifically. These treaties typically prevent double taxation, but how they apply varies by country. For Australia specifically, under the US-Australia tax treaty, your Social Security benefits would generally only be taxable in your country of residence. However, this is definitely an area where consulting with a tax professional familiar with both countries' tax systems would be valuable.
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Leila Haddad
dont forget to update ur address with ssa when u move!!! my friend moved to costa rica and didn't tell them and they almost stopped her payments cuz her mail was coming back undelivered and they thought she died!!
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Freya Andersen
•Oh that's scary! Definitely wouldn't want that to happen. I'll make sure to update my address correctly. Thanks for the tip!
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PixelPrincess
One more important consideration for your children: If they're receiving survivor benefits and you move internationally, SSA may periodically require proof of school attendance after age 16, proof of life, and other documentation to continue their benefits. The process for providing this documentation from abroad can be complicated. Also, if your children become residents of another country, there could be different rules that apply after they've been outside the US for 6 calendar months. Make sure you understand these requirements before moving. Finally, consider how currency conversion and international transfer fees might affect the actual amount you receive each month.
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Omar Farouk
•This is exactly why I kept my American bank account when I moved to England after my husband died!!! The conversion fees were INSANE when I tried to have it sent directly to my UK account!!! Like losing $50-60 every month!!! Not worth it!!!
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Eduardo Silva
After reading all the comments, I wanted to add that from my experience living in Spain while receiving survivor benefits, the process was manageable but required attention to detail. Here's what worked for me: 1. I kept my US bank account for direct deposits 2. I notified SSA before leaving (took about 45 minutes on the phone) 3. I filed form SSA-21 as mentioned above 4. I renewed my address information whenever we moved 5. I responded promptly to the annual questionnaire The benefits continued without interruption, but I did have to visit the US Embassy once to verify some information. Overall, it's definitely possible to maintain your benefits while pursuing international opportunities.
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Freya Andersen
•This is so helpful! It's reassuring to hear from someone who's actually done this successfully. I'm going to look into all these forms and requirements. Thank you for sharing your experience - it makes this feel much more manageable.
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