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Social Security benefits confusion for same-sex marriage - counting legally married years after divorce

I recently got divorced after a 10-year same-sex marriage and trying to understand my Social Security benefits is making my head spin! My ex and I married in June 2013 in Massachusetts, but we lived in Florida which didn't recognize our marriage until the Obergefell decision in June 2015. We just finalized our divorce in January 2025 after separating last year. I'm trying to figure out if I can claim ex-spouse benefits eventually (I'm 52, she's 58). Does Social Security count our marriage as lasting 12 years (2013-2025) or just 9.5 years (2015-2025) because of when federal recognition happened? The 10-year mark for ex-spouse benefits seems to depend on this technicality and I'm getting different answers from everyone I ask. Has anyone dealt with this specific situation?

ShadowHunter

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Social Security will recognize your marriage from the original date on your marriage certificate (June 2013), not the Obergefell decision date. SSA issued specific guidance after the Windsor and Obergefell Supreme Court decisions to count the full duration of same-sex marriages regardless of when they became recognized in your state of residence. Since your marriage lasted from 2013 to 2025, that's about 11.5 years - well over the 10-year mark required for ex-spouse benefits.

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Chloe Taylor

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Thank you so much! That's such a relief to hear. I was worried because someone at my local SSA office seemed confused when I asked about it. Do you know if there's any specific documentation about this I can reference when I eventually apply?

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Diego Ramirez

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my sister is in almost the exact same situation!! married in 2012 in NY but lived in Texas, and she just finalized her divorce. the ssa worker actually told her the OPPOSITE of what the person above said - that only the years after obergefell counted. she had to bring in printouts from the ssa website to prove them wrong. so def be prepared to advocate for yourself!!

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Chloe Taylor

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Wow, that's concerning but good to know! Did your sister happen to mention which specific documents or website sections helped her case? I want to be prepared!

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SSA Policy Operations Manual System (POMS) specifically addresses this in GN 00210.100. After Obergefell, SSA recognizes same-sex marriages from the date of marriage, not the date of legal recognition. However, it's critical you have proper documentation when you apply. Bring your original marriage certificate and divorce decree showing dates. If you meet the 10-year requirement (which you do), you qualify once you reach eligibility age and your ex becomes entitled or eligible for benefits.

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Chloe Taylor

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Thank you! I just looked up that POMS reference and found it. I'll definitely save this information for when I apply. It's frustrating how inconsistent the information can be even from official sources.

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Sean O'Connor

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I was in a simlar situation but with a TWIST - we got married in Canada in 2010 but lived in Georgia til 2020 when we split. SSA counts our FULL marriage even though it wasnt in the US! So they def will count yours from the original date. The SSA computers aren't always updated with the right policies tho so some workers get confused.

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Zara Ahmed

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Wait, this is interesting. I married my husband in a different situation (not same-sex) but in another country. Would Social Security still recognize that without us having to do anything special for US recognition? I've been assuming we'd need to register it somehow.

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Luca Conti

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The Social Security Administration follows the "place of celebration" rule for determining the validity of marriages. If your marriage was legally performed in Massachusetts in 2013, then SSA will recognize it from that date, regardless of where you lived afterward. This was clarified in Emergency Message EM-14009 after Windsor and further reinforced after Obergefell. For ex-spouse benefits, you'll need to meet other requirements too: be unmarried, be at least 62, and your ex-spouse must be entitled to benefits. But the duration requirement is definitely met in your case. Just make sure to have all documentation ready when you apply.

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Chloe Taylor

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Thanks for the detailed explanation! I'll look up that Emergency Message too for my records. And yes, I know I have several years before I can actually claim anything - I'm just trying to understand my options for future planning.

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Nia Johnson

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I spent HOURS trying to reach someone at Social Security who could give me a straight answer about my domestic partnership conversion to marriage and how that affects my benefits. Was on hold forever and got disconnected twice! Finally used a service called Claimyr (claimyr.com) that got me through to a real person at SSA in about 20 minutes. They have a video showing how it works: https://youtu.be/Z-BRbJw3puU. The agent confirmed that my marriage counts from the original certificate date, not when my state recognized it. Sounds like you'd get the same answer but might be worth confirming your specific situation.

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Diego Ramirez

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omg i wish i knew about this when my sister was dealing with her mess! she waited on hold for like 3 hours before getting disconnected. definitely saving this for next time we need to deal with ssa!

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Sean O'Connor

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I read somewhere that theres a special form you have to fill out for same-sex marriages to get them recognized from the original date but I cant remember what it was called. Anyone know?

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There is no special form required. SSA recognizes all legal marriages based on the original certificate. Following Windsor and Obergefell decisions, they updated their systems to recognize same-sex marriages retroactively to the original date of marriage. The confusion may come from the period immediately after Windsor when some people needed to reapply for benefits, but that's not relevant to new applications.

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Zara Ahmed

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This is so confusing! I thought I understood how marriage duration works for Social Security but now I'm not sure. I was in a traditional opposite-sex marriage for 9 years and 10 months before divorce, and I was told I missed the 10-year cutoff for ex-spouse benefits by just 2 months. It seems unfair that some people get different rules than others, but I guess that's how the law works sometimes. In any case, OP, I hope you can get those benefits!

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Luca Conti

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The rules aren't different - all marriages follow the same 10-year duration requirement for ex-spouse benefits. The difference is only in how the start date is determined. For same-sex marriages, SSA had to clarify that they recognize these marriages from their original legal date, not from when federal recognition occurred. In your case, unfortunately, the marriage was indeed just shy of the 10-year mark.

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Chloe Taylor

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Thank you all so much for the helpful information! I feel much better prepared now. I'll definitely keep records of all the policy information mentioned here when I eventually apply. I'm still years away from being eligible age-wise, but it's a relief to know I'll qualify based on the marriage duration. Social Security rules are so complicated - I'm grateful for this community's knowledge!

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