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CosmicCaptain

Social Security 10-year marriage rule: Does divorce filing date or final decree count for ex-spouse benefits?

My divorce was finalized in April 2025 but we actually filed the paperwork back in late 2021 - so the whole process took over 3 years! Now I'm trying to figure out if I'll qualify for ex-spouse Social Security benefits when I retire in a few years. I know there's that 10-year marriage requirement, but I'm confused about WHICH date SSA uses to determine eligibility. We were married in June 2012, so if they use the filing date, I wouldn't meet the 10-year requirement. But if they use the final decree date, I would qualify. Has anyone dealt with this situation? I've tried calling the SSA office three times but keep getting disconnected after 40+ minutes on hold.

SSA absolutely goes by the final decree date, not the filing date. I went through this exact situation last year. The agent I spoke with was very clear that as long as you were legally married until the divorce was FINALIZED for 10 years or more, you qualify. So in your case, 2012 to 2025 is definitely over 10 years - you're good!

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This is correct. Social Security strictly uses the date the divorce was legally finalized by the court, not when you filed the petition. According to SSA.gov, you must have been married for at least 10 consecutive years, ending with a finalized divorce, to be eligible for ex-spouse benefits. The actual language in their operations manual states "date the divorce became final.

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my friend got denied cause her divorce took 2 long... something about rules for if u reconcile during the divorce process... better double check your case is different than hers

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CosmicCaptain

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Oh no, that's concerning! We definitely didn't reconcile during the process - it just took forever because of court backlogs and some property disputes. Do you know if there's a specific form or documentation I should have ready when I talk to SSA about this?

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I WENT THROUGH THIS NIGHTMARE in 2023!!! They absolutely 100% use the FINAL DECREE date. I had a similar timeline (though my divorce only took 2 years not 3.5). The big issue is you MUST have the official court documents showing both your marriage date AND the final divorce decree date. Don't just walk in with photocopies - they rejected mine twice!! Had to get court-certified copies with the raised seal. The whole system is designed to make you give up!!!

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Dmitry Petrov

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That's good to know about needing certified copies! I just assumed regular photocopies would be fine. Seems like everything with SS requires some special format.

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StarSurfer

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If you're struggling to reach someone at SSA, I'd recommend trying Claimyr (claimyr.com). I was in a similar situation trying to verify my ex-spouse benefit eligibility and kept getting disconnected. Claimyr got me connected to an actual SSA agent in about 20 minutes instead of hours of hold time. They have a video showing how it works: https://youtu.be/Z-BRbJw3puU Regarding your question, SSA specifically uses the date the divorce was finalized by the court (the decree date), not the initial filing date. This is clearly stated in their Program Operations Manual System (POMS) which is their internal rulebook. So your marriage from June 2012 to April 2025 would qualify as over 10 years for ex-spouse benefit purposes.

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CosmicCaptain

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Thank you for the Claimyr suggestion! I'll definitely check that out because these phone calls are driving me crazy. And thanks for confirming about the decree date - that's a huge relief. I was worried I'd miss qualifying by just a few months after all these years.

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Ava Martinez

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wait does this mean i can collect from my ex?? we were married 11 years but i never thought to apply for his ss

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Yes, you might qualify! If you were married for 11 years, are currently unmarried, and your ex is entitled to Social Security retirement or disability benefits, you could receive up to 50% of their full retirement amount. You need to be at least 62 to claim, and if your own benefit would be higher, you'll get that instead. Check SSA.gov for the full eligibility requirements.

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Dmitry Petrov

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The date that matters is definitely the final divorce decree date. But here's something else to consider - are you sure you even want to claim on your ex's record? Remember that to qualify you also need to be unmarried when you apply (unless your later marriage also ended). And the benefit is only worthwhile if 50% of your ex's benefit is more than 100% of your own. Just something to think about while you're planning.

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CosmicCaptain

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That's a good point. My ex was the higher earner in our marriage (I stayed home with kids for several years), so I'm pretty sure his benefit would be significantly higher. I haven't remarried and don't plan to before retirement. I'm just trying to understand all my options so I can make the best choice when the time comes!

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My aunt just went through this process and there's another catch - even if you qualify based on the 10-year rule, you can only get ex-spouse benefits if your former spouse is eligible for benefits (meaning they're at least 62) OR has already filed for their benefits. The only exception is if you've been divorced for at least 2 years, then you can claim on their record even if they haven't filed yet. Just something else to keep in mind with your planning!

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THIS!!! I got caught by this rule too!!! Had to wait TWO WHOLE YEARS after my divorce before I could claim even though my ex was eligible. The SSA doesn't exactly go out of their way to explain these rules clearly. It's ALWAYS some surprise gotcha with them!!!

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so i think it depends on your state too? my cousin in florida had different experience than my friend in texas

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Social Security is a federal program, so the 10-year marriage rule for ex-spouse benefits is the same in all 50 states. The date the divorce becomes final (the decree date) is what counts, regardless of state. However, what might differ by state is how divorce processes work and how long they take, which could indirectly affect whether someone reaches the 10-year mark.

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CosmicCaptain

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Thanks everyone for your helpful responses! This is such a relief to know that the final decree date is what matters. I've got my certified copies of both the marriage certificate and divorce decree ready to go. I'll try that Claimyr service to actually reach someone at SSA and confirm everything for my specific case. Really appreciate all the advice!

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Taylor Chen

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You're very welcome! It sounds like you have everything well organized with your certified documents. One small tip - when you do get through to SSA, ask them to make a note in your file about your eligibility discussion so if you need to call back later, the next agent can see what was already confirmed. Good luck with everything!

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Javier Cruz

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I just wanted to add that if you're planning to claim ex-spouse benefits, you should also be aware that you can potentially switch strategies later. For example, you could start by claiming your own reduced benefit at 62, then switch to ex-spouse benefits at full retirement age if that would give you more money. Or vice versa - claim the ex-spouse benefit first and delay your own until age 70 for maximum credits. It's worth discussing these timing strategies with SSA when you call, since the optimal approach depends on your specific benefit amounts and financial situation.

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That's really helpful information about the switching strategies! I hadn't thought about the timing aspect at all - I was just focused on whether I'd qualify in the first place. It sounds like there are quite a few variables to consider beyond just meeting the 10-year requirement. I'll definitely ask about these different approaches when I finally get through to someone at SSA. Thanks for bringing up this planning angle!

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As someone who works in family law, I can confirm that SSA consistently uses the final divorce decree date for the 10-year marriage requirement. However, I'd also recommend getting a written statement from SSA confirming your eligibility once you do speak with them. Sometimes there can be complications if there were any temporary separations or reconciliations during the divorce process that might affect the "continuous marriage" requirement. Also, make sure you have documentation showing you remained legally married throughout the entire divorce proceedings - some states have quirky rules about legal separation that could potentially complicate things. Better to have everything crystal clear upfront than deal with surprises later when you actually file for benefits!

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Ava Martinez

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This is excellent advice from a legal perspective! I hadn't even considered potential complications from temporary separations during the divorce process. My case was pretty straightforward - we lived separately once we filed but remained legally married the whole time until the decree. But you're absolutely right about getting written confirmation from SSA. Given how long it took me to even consider calling them, I definitely want documentation of whatever they tell me. Thanks for the professional insight!

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Alice Pierce

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I'm new to this community but wanted to share what I learned when I went through a similar situation last year. The SSA definitely uses the final decree date, but I'd also suggest keeping copies of ALL your divorce paperwork - not just the final decree. In my case, they asked for the original filing documents too because they wanted to verify there weren't any unusual circumstances during the proceedings. Also, if you do use Claimyr to get through to SSA, make sure to ask the agent for their direct callback number or extension. Several people in my local support group have had success getting the same helpful agent on follow-up calls that way, which saves time if you need clarification on anything later. Your timeline definitely qualifies you - June 2012 to April 2025 is well over the 10-year requirement!

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Welcome to the community, Alice! That's really helpful advice about keeping all the divorce paperwork, not just the final decree. I hadn't thought about SSA potentially wanting to see the original filing documents too. And thanks for the tip about getting a direct callback number - that could definitely save a lot of time if I need to follow up with questions. It's reassuring to hear from someone who went through this recently that my timeline should qualify. This whole process seemed so overwhelming at first, but everyone's shared experiences are making it much clearer!

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I just wanted to chime in as someone who recently helped my sister navigate this exact situation! Everyone here is absolutely correct - SSA uses the final divorce decree date, not the filing date. My sister's divorce also took over 3 years to finalize, and she was worried about the same thing. When she finally got through to SSA (took her multiple attempts too!), they confirmed that as long as the marriage lasted 10+ years from wedding to final decree, she qualified. One thing I'd add is to make sure you have your ex-spouse's Social Security number ready when you call SSA - they'll need it to look up their earnings record and calculate your potential benefit amount. Also, don't be discouraged if the first agent you speak with seems uncertain about the rules - my sister had to speak with a supervisor to get a definitive answer. The good news is your timeline from June 2012 to April 2025 clearly meets the requirement! Hang in there with the phone calls - it's worth the effort to get this sorted out properly.

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Noah Torres

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Thanks for sharing your sister's experience, William! That's a great point about having the ex-spouse's Social Security number ready - I hadn't thought about that detail but it makes total sense that they'd need it to calculate potential benefits. I do have that information saved somewhere, so I'll make sure to dig it out before I call. It's also good to know that I might need to ask for a supervisor if the first agent seems unsure. I'm feeling much more prepared now thanks to everyone's advice here. The community knowledge is so much more helpful than trying to navigate the SSA website alone!

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I've been following this thread as someone who went through the SSA ex-spouse benefits process about 6 months ago. Everyone here is spot-on about the final decree date being what matters - that was confirmed multiple times during my application process. One additional tip I'd offer: when you do get through to SSA, ask them to explain the "deemed filing" rules if you're planning to claim before your full retirement age. This can affect whether you're automatically filing for both your own benefits AND spousal benefits simultaneously, which might not be the optimal strategy depending on your situation. Also, if you end up needing to visit a local SSA office instead of handling everything by phone, try to schedule an appointment rather than walking in - the wait times are much more predictable that way. Your case sounds very straightforward though, so I think you'll have a smooth process once you actually connect with them!

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StarStrider

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This is really valuable information about the "deemed filing" rules - I had no idea that claiming early could automatically trigger filing for both types of benefits! That definitely sounds like something I need to understand better before making any decisions. I'm still a few years away from retirement age, so I have time to plan the optimal strategy. Thanks for the tip about scheduling an appointment rather than walking in too - I hadn't considered visiting an office in person, but that might actually be less frustrating than the endless phone hold times. It's so helpful to learn from people who've recently been through this process!

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