Social Security at 63 while working over the earnings limit - will my PIA still increase?
Need some clarity on starting SS retirement benefits early while still working. My husband just turned 63 last week and wants to claim his retirement benefits but continue working until 65. His career has several low-earning years in his 35-year calculation period, so I'm wondering if his PIA will still increase during these final 2 working years even while collecting? His current income is about $32,500 annually, which I know exceeds the 2025 earnings limit (around $24K?). I've explained the $1 reduction for every $2 over the limit, and he understands he'll get reduced checks. A few other details: I'm 66 and planning to wait until 70 to maximize my benefit. His projected benefit is significantly lower than mine (about 40% of my FRA amount), so I don't think spousal benefits help much in our situation. Also, if he waits until January to file, would he completely avoid the monthly earnings test for the first year? Does everything I've outlined sound correct? Thanks in advance for helping us navigate this!
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Aaron Lee
Yes, your husband's PIA will continue to increase while he's working, even if he's already collecting benefits. Those additional earnings could potentially replace some of those low-earning years in his calculation. However, keep in mind that starting at 63 means he'll have a permanent reduction of about 25% from his full retirement age benefit amount. Regarding the earnings limit, the 2025 amount hasn't been officially announced yet, but based on inflation adjustments, it'll likely be around $24,500-$25,000. And yes, he will face the $1 for $2 reduction for everything he earns above that limit. One correction though - waiting until January doesn't let him avoid the monthly earnings test completely. The monthly earnings test only applies in the first year of retirement, and it's based on whether he earns over a monthly limit (about $2,040/month in 2025). Since he's continuing to work, he'll still be subject to the annual earnings test.
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Alexis Robinson
•Thank you for the clear explanation! That 25% permanent reduction is significant. Do you know if the earnings limit applies differently once he reaches his full retirement age? I've heard that once you hit FRA, you can earn unlimited amounts without reduction. Is that correct?
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Chloe Mitchell
You're absolutely right about the earnings test disappearing at full retirement age. Once your husband reaches his FRA (likely 67 based on his age), he can earn unlimited income with no benefit reduction. Also, SSA will recalculate his benefit at FRA to give back (gradually, in increased monthly payments) what was withheld due to the earnings test. Another important consideration: while his PIA can increase from continued work, those increases might not fully offset the early filing reduction. Have you considered whether it might be more advantageous for him to wait until FRA to file? Especially with his work history having low-earning years, those final higher-earning years could make a meaningful difference if he delays filing.
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Michael Adams
•my neighbor started SS at 63 and kept working and hes STILL mad about how much they took out!! they took almost half his SS checks some months when he worked overtime. just somthing to think about!!
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Natalie Wang
I went thru something similar with my wife last year. She started benefits at 63 while still working. Here's what happened: 1. Yes, her PIA continued to increase from her ongoing work 2. BUT they withheld almost all her benefits because she earned way over the limit 3. The adjustments for earnings were messy - sometimes they'd withhold too much, then we'd get a random payment later 4. The tax situation got complicated too - SS benefits can be taxable based on your combined income In hindsight, we probably should've waited until she fully retired or reached FRA. The paperwork and adjustments were a headache. And remember, that reduction for claiming early is PERMANENT - it doesn't go away when he reaches full retirement age.
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Noah Torres
•THIS! The SSA isn't exactly known for their smooth processing when it comes to the earnings test. We had MONTHS of incorrect payments, underpayments, overpayments...absolute NIGHTMARE trying to get it straightened out. And their phone lines?? Forget about it! I spent HOURS trying to reach someone who understood what was happening.
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Samantha Hall
Since your 66 and husband is 63, have you looked into file and suspend strategies? I thought there might be a way to coordinate your benefits better, especially since his benefit is lower than yours.
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Aaron Lee
•Unfortunately, the file and suspend strategy was eliminated with the 2015 budget legislation. It's no longer available as an option for new filers. The coordination strategies available now are more limited.
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Ryan Young
I just want to add - don't forget about how this affects Medicare! If he starts SS at 63, he won't automatically get Medicare since that starts at 65. When he does apply for Medicare at 65, he'll get Parts A & B automatically because he's already receiving SS benefits. But if he's still working and has employer coverage, he might want to delay Part B to avoid paying premiums while still covered elsewhere. You'll need to actively contact SSA about this when the time comes.
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Alexis Robinson
•Thank you! I hadn't even thought about the Medicare angle. We do have good employer coverage right now, so that's definitely something we'll need to look into when he turns 65.
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Michael Adams
Has anyone tried to actually CALL the SSA office to get answers on this stuff? I spent 3 hours on hold last month trying to ask a similar question about working while on SS and never got through!! So frustrating!
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Natalie Wang
•I used a service called Claimyr (claimyr.com) last time I needed to speak with SSA. Saved me hours of waiting on hold. They have a system that calls SSA for you and rings your phone when a representative is on the line. Worked great for me when I needed to sort out my wife's earnings test issues. You can see how it works in this video: https://youtu.be/Z-BRbJw3puU
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Noah Torres
WAIT before he does ANYTHING!! Has he looked at what his survivor benefit would be for YOU if he dies first?? If he claims at 63, your survivor benefit would be based on that REDUCED amount! If his health is good and longevity runs in his family, waiting might be MUCH better for your financial security long-term!! This is something NOBODY told us and I'm still mad about it!!
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Alexis Robinson
•Oh my goodness, I hadn't considered that at all. Since my benefit is higher, I assumed I'd just keep my own if he passed away. I didn't realize his early claiming could affect me that way. We definitely need to look into this more before making any decisions. Thank you!
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Aaron Lee
Another important point - since your husband's benefit is only about 40% of yours, you should definitely consider how his filing decision impacts potential spousal benefits. While he's alive, he wouldn't qualify for spousal benefits on your record until you file for your own benefits. After you file at 70, he could potentially receive a spousal supplement if 50% of your PIA exceeds his own benefit (including reductions for early filing). This gets complicated, but it's worth understanding the full picture. The timing of both your claims can have significant impacts on your combined lifetime benefits.
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Michael Adams
•i get so confused with all this PIA and FRA and spousal stuff. wish they made it simpler!!
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Alexis Robinson
Thank you everyone for all this helpful information! We definitely have more to consider than I initially thought. I'm going to talk with my husband about possibly waiting until his FRA after learning about the survivor benefit implications and the hassle of dealing with the earnings test. Seems like the small amount he'd get now (after reductions) might not be worth the permanent cut to his benefit. Really appreciate all your insights!
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Chloe Mitchell
•Sounds like a wise approach. If you have any specific questions as you continue planning, don't hesitate to ask. The rules can be complex, but taking time to understand them now can make a significant difference in your combined lifetime benefits.
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