Can my 70-year-old client get Social Security benefits for his teenage son? Confused about dependent benefits
I'm a tax preparer and have a client situation I've never encountered before. My client just turned 70 and finally filed for his Social Security retirement benefits (I know, he waited way beyond FRA!). Here's what confused me - he mentioned his 14-year-old son is now receiving benefits too. I always thought children only got Social Security if the parent died (survivor benefits). Is this actually a thing where minor children can receive benefits when a parent is alive and just collecting retirement? Has anyone dealt with this? The son lives with him and his current wife (the boy's mother). My client seems convinced this is legitimate, but I want to make sure he's not misunderstanding something the SSA told him.
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Diego Ramirez
Yes, dependent children can absolutely get benefits when a parent collects Social Security retirement! It's not just survivor benefits. Children under 18 (or up to 19 if still in high school) can receive up to 50% of the parent's PIA when the parent claims retirement. It's one of the most overlooked benefits in the Social Security system. The child's benefits don't reduce the parent's amount either. Given your client's age, it was smart to file now rather than waiting longer since his son only has 4-5 years of eligibility left.
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ShadowHunter
•Wow, thank you! I had no idea this was possible. This is going to change how I advise some of my other clients who have young children later in life. Do you know if there's an earnings limit for the child? Or any other restrictions I should know about?
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Anastasia Sokolov
ya i get this for my kid too! im 68 and have a 16 yr old and she gets a check every month. makes a big diff for her college fund!
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Sean O'Connor
•Wait WHAT?!?! My dad is 67 and I'm 17 - nobody told us I could get benefits! How do I apply for this? Does my dad have to do something special? We're leaving money on the table!!!
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Zara Ahmed
This is absolutely a legitimate benefit, but there are LIMITATIONS to be aware of. There's something called the 'family maximum benefit' that caps the total amount one worker's record can pay out. It's usually between 150-180% of the worker's PIA. So if your client's wife also gets spousal benefits, plus the child gets dependent benefits, they might hit that maximum and not get the full 50% each. Also, if your client is still working and earning above the earnings limit (doesn't apply after FRA), it could temporarily reduce family benefits too. But at 70, that's not an issue.
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ShadowHunter
•That's really helpful information about the family maximum! I'll look into that because his wife is getting spousal benefits too. Do you know if there are any tax implications for the child's benefits that I should be advising them on?
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Luca Conti
I was confused by this too when I first learned about it! A lot of people don't realize the SSA pays benefits to dependents of retired workers. The benefit can be up to half of the retiree's amount. The child has to be unmarried and under 18 (or up to 19 if still in high school). Kids with disabilities can even get benefits into adulthood if the disability started before 22! The retirement has to have started though - children don't get benefits from parents who are eligible but haven't claimed yet.
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Nia Johnson
•Great explanation! Just to add - disabled adult children can receive benefits on a retired parent's record indefinitely, as long as the disability began before age 22. This is a crucial lifeline for many families with disabled adult children.
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CyberNinja
When I tried to get my grandson his benefits, it took FOREVER to get through to SSA on the phone. I spent WEEKS calling and getting busy signals or being disconnected after waiting for hours!!! Finally I found a service called Claimyr that got me through to a real person at SSA in under 20 minutes. You can see how it works at https://youtu.be/Z-BRbJw3puU - website is claimyr.com. Totally worth it to avoid the headache, especially if your client needs to ask questions about how these dependent benefits work with the family maximum limit.
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Sean O'Connor
•Does this service really work? I've been trying to get through to SSA for days about my potential benefits as a minor child of a retiree!
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CyberNinja
•It definitely worked for me! Got through to discuss my grandson's dependent benefits after trying unsuccessfully for weeks. The video explains exactly how it works.
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Anastasia Sokolov
theres something else ur client should no... the kid gets benefits til 18 (or 19 if still in high school) but he MUST apply for them! SSA doesnt automatically give them. my friends kid missed out on a whole year of payments cuz they didnt know they had to apply
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ShadowHunter
•That's a really good point! I'll make sure my client knows this. Do you happen to know if the benefits can be backdated at all if they weren't applied for right when he started collecting?
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Diego Ramirez
One thing that might be confusing you - there are THREE different ways children can get Social Security: 1. Child survivor benefits when a parent dies 2. Child dependent benefits when a parent retires and collects Social Security 3. Child dependent benefits when a parent becomes disabled and gets SSDI In all three cases, the child must be under 18 (or 19 if still in high school), unless the child is disabled. Your client's situation is #2. Maximum benefit is 50% of the parent's PIA, subject to family maximum.
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Sean O'Connor
•So does that mean if both my parents are collecting retirement benefits, I could potentially get benefits from both of them? I'm 17 and both parents are over 66.
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Diego Ramirez
•No, a child can only receive benefits on one parent's record - whichever gives the higher benefit amount. The SSA will determine which one is more advantageous when you apply.
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Zara Ahmed
I used to work for SSA, and I can confirm this is 100% legitimate. The technical term is "child's insurance benefits" and they're available to minor children of retired, disabled, or deceased workers. Given your client's age (70), he's maximized his own benefit with delayed retirement credits, which also increases the value of his son's dependent benefit (though the child's benefit is based on the PIA, not the increased amount). Your client should contact SSA immediately if he hasn't already applied for his son - benefits can only be backdated 6 months maximum.
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ShadowHunter
•Thank you for the insider knowledge! This is extremely helpful. I'll make sure my client knows about the 6-month backdate limitation. I can't believe I've been doing tax preparation for all these years and never knew about this benefit!
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Nia Johnson
Something important to consider - even though the child receives these benefits, they technically belong to the parent/guardian to use for the child's benefit. For tax purposes, if the benefits exceed certain thresholds, they may be taxable. Your client should keep this in mind for future tax planning. The child should have received a separate SSA-1099 for his benefits, which would need to be reported if they exceed the taxable thresholds.
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ShadowHunter
•That's great to know about the SSA-1099 for the child. I'll make sure to ask them for that document when I prepare their taxes next year. So ultimately the benefits are considered the child's income for tax purposes, not the parent's, correct?
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