Can I still get Social Security widow benefits if my own FRA amount is higher than 50% of my late husband's?
I'm completely confused about my widow benefits situation. My husband passed away last year, and I'm trying to figure out if I should apply for widow benefits when I turn 60 next month or wait until my full retirement age (67). I've been on the SSA website for hours and I'm more confused than when I started! Here's my situation: At my full retirement age, my Social Security benefit would be around $2,800/month based on my own work record. My late husband's benefit at his FRA would have been about $3,200/month. I know widows typically get 100% of their spouse's benefit at FRA, but what I don't understand is: since my own benefit is higher than 50% of his, does that disqualify me from widow benefits entirely? Or can I still claim widow benefits at 60 and then switch to my own higher benefit at 67? The SSA website has so much information about different rules and exceptions that I can't figure out what applies to me. Any advice would be so appreciated!
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Mateo Silva
You're getting confused between spousal benefits and widow benefits. They're completely different! With widow benefits, the 50% threshold doesn't matter at all - that's only for spousal benefits when both spouses are alive. As a widow, you're entitled to 100% of your husband's FRA benefit amount if you wait until your own FRA to collect. If you take it early at age 60, you'll get about 71.5% of his FRA amount. The great thing about your situation is that you have options. You could take the reduced widow benefit at 60 and then switch to your own higher benefit at 67. Or wait until 62 and take your own reduced retirement benefit, then switch to the full widow benefit at your FRA. It's about maximizing your lifetime benefits.
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Michael Green
•Oh thank you so much! That makes way more sense than what I was thinking. So I could take the reduced widow benefit now and still switch to my own later? Would I have to do anything special to make sure SSA knows I want to switch benefits when I reach FRA?
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Victoria Jones
my mom did this exact thing!! took widow benefits at 60 then switched to her own at full retirement age. SSA doesnt really tell u this strategy but it worked great for her. she got checks for 7 extra years this way
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Cameron Black
•That's not always the best strategy though. It depends on the benefit amounts and life expectancy. If the widow's own benefit is dramatically higher than the reduced widow's benefit, sometimes it's better to wait. Everyone's situation is DIFFERENT and the SSA representatives often give BAD ADVICE because they aren't trained financial planners!!
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Jessica Nguyen
This is actually a perfect example of why survivor benefits are so valuable in retirement planning. You are absolutely entitled to widow's benefits even though your own benefit is substantial. Here's how it works: 1. Widow benefits and spousal benefits follow different rules. The 50% threshold only applies to spousal benefits. 2. For survivors, you're entitled to 100% of your deceased spouse's benefit if you claim at your FRA. 3. You can claim as early as age 60, but the benefit will be reduced to about 71.5% of your husband's FRA amount. 4. The "restricted application" strategy works well in your situation - take reduced widow benefits at 60, then switch to your own higher benefit at 67. This approach gives you 7 years of income while letting your own benefit grow to its maximum. When you switch, you'll need to contact SSA and specifically request to switch from widow's benefits to your retirement benefit.
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Isaiah Thompson
•My sister tried doing this last year and the SSA office told her something completely different! They said once you file for any benefit you're automatically filing for all benefits and get the higher amount. Are you sure this restricted application thing still works? I thought they ended that with those 2015 law changes?
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Jessica Nguyen
To clarify the confusion from the previous comment - the "deemed filing" rules that require filing for all benefits simultaneously do NOT apply to widow/survivor benefits. This is a common misunderstanding, even among some SSA representatives. The Bipartisan Budget Act of 2015 eliminated restricted applications for retirement and spousal benefits for people born after 1/1/1954, but specifically preserved this option for survivor benefits. Widow(er)s can still file a restricted application for either survivor benefits or their own retirement benefits and then switch later to the higher benefit. This strategy remains one of the few remaining Social Security claiming strategies that allows for significant optimization.
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Michael Green
•That's such a relief! I was getting worried when I saw that comment about 2015 law changes. So I definitely still have this option available. I think I'm going to go with claiming widow benefits at 60 and then switching to my own at 67, since my own benefit will be higher in the long run.
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Ruby Garcia
I've been trying to get through to SSA for weeks to ask about this exact situation (my husband passed in January). Their phone lines are IMPOSSIBLE - constant busy signals and disconnects after waiting for 2+ hours. I finally found a service called Claimyr that got me through to a rep in 20 minutes! The agent confirmed exactly what others are saying here - you can take widow benefits early and switch to your own later. It saved me so much frustration. Check out their video to see how it works: https://youtu.be/Z-BRbJw3puU or their website claimyr.com Just sharing because dealing with SSA after losing a spouse is hard enough without the phone frustrations.
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Michael Green
•Thank you for the tip! I've been dreading calling them because I've heard how bad the wait times are. I'll definitely check out that service because I really want to speak to someone directly about my specific situation before making any decisions.
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Alexander Evans
Dont forget abt the earnings test if u work!! Under FRA u can only earn like $20k or something before they start deducting from benefits. hapened to my friend and she had to pay back a bunch
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Mateo Silva
•Good point about the earnings test! For 2025, if you're under FRA the annual exempt amount is $22,320. Above that, SSA withholds $1 in benefits for every $2 earned over the limit. The year you reach FRA, the limit is $59,520 with $1 withheld for every $3 earned over the limit. After FRA, there's no earnings test at all. This is definitely something to factor into the decision if you're still working.
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Cameron Black
Is anyone else OUTRAGED at how COMPLICATED they make this system?? My husband worked for 45 YEARS paying into Social Security and when he died I had to spend MONTHS figuring out what I was entitled to! The SSA website is a MAZE and their phone lines are always busy. Then when you finally reach someone half the time they give you WRONG INFORMATION anyway!!! They should send everyone a simple letter explaining EXACTLY what their options are when a spouse dies instead of making us all become SS experts just to get what we deserve! The system is BROKEN!!!
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Isaiah Thompson
•I feel you. When my husband died last year I got three different answers from three different SSA people. One told me I couldn't get widow benefits because I was still working (totally wrong). The whole thing is so stressful when you're already dealing with grief.
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Victoria Jones
just want to add that when u switch benefits later make sure to do it in writing not just over phone. my aunt thought she had switched but they didn't process it right and she missed out on higher payments for 8 months before she noticed!!
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Michael Green
•That's a really good tip! I'll definitely put everything in writing. I've been keeping notes of all the information I'm gathering here too so I don't forget anything important.
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Mateo Silva
One more important detail - when planning your strategy, remember that your own retirement benefit continues to grow until age 70 (at 8% per year after FRA), but survivor benefits do NOT grow after your FRA. This means there's no advantage to delaying widow benefits past your full retirement age of 67. In your case, taking reduced widow benefits at 60, then switching to your own benefit at 67 (or even 70 for maximum growth) is likely the optimal strategy given the benefit amounts you mentioned. At age 70, your own benefit would be about $3,472/month compared to the $3,200 survivor benefit at FRA.
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Michael Green
•Thank you so much for explaining that! I didn't know my own benefit could grow until 70. That makes me even more confident in the strategy of taking widow benefits now and switching later. Everyone has been so helpful here - I wish the SSA website explained things this clearly!
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