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Social Security widow benefits at 63 - will taking them now reduce my own retirement benefits at FRA?

I recently lost my husband last year and I'm trying to navigate the Social Security maze. I'm currently 63 and still working part-time. When I visited my local SS office to ask about widow benefits, the claims representative told me something that confused me - they said if I take widow benefits now, it would somehow reduce my own retirement benefit when I reach my full retirement age at 67. This doesn't sound right to me based on what I've read online about being able to switch between benefits. Can anyone clarify if taking reduced widow benefits now will permanently affect my own retirement benefit later? I was planning to take the widow benefit now (even though reduced) and then switch to my own higher benefit at 67. My own work record should give me about $2,450/month at FRA while the reduced widow benefit would be around $1,950/month now. Really appreciate any guidance from those who've been through this situation!

Giovanni Conti

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The SSA representative gave you incorrect information. Taking widow benefits now at a reduced rate will NOT affect your own retirement benefit at your FRA. These are completely separate benefits with separate rules. You absolutely can take reduced widow benefits now and then switch to your own higher retirement benefit at 67. This is actually one of the few remaining "claim now, claim more later" strategies that still works after the 2015 rule changes. The reduction only applies to the widow benefit itself, not to your future retirement benefit. Make sure to specifically tell them you want to restrict your application to ONLY widow benefits when you apply. Be very clear about this.

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Amara Chukwu

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Thank you so much for confirming this! I thought the rep was wrong but started doubting myself. I'll definitely specify that I'm restricting my application to widow benefits only. One more question - will my current part-time earnings affect my widow benefits? I make about $22,000 annually.

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my condolences on losing your husband. i went thru same thing 2 yrs ago and took widow benefit at 60. the SSA people told me same thing but its WRONG!!! my sister in law works for SSA and told me widow benefits have no effect on your own SS at FRA. dont let them confuse you!!

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NeonNova

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The SSA reps are NOTORIOUSLY inconsistent with their information!! When I called about my own widow benefits I got told THREE different things by THREE different reps! It's absolutely infuriating. The system is deliberately confusing and they don't train their people properly. I finally had to print out the actual SSA rules from their website and take them to my appointment to get correct information.

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Dylan Campbell

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You need to be careful about your earnings while collecting widow benefits before your FRA. In 2025, the earnings limit for beneficiaries under FRA is $22,320. Since you're earning about $22,000, you're just under the limit, but if you earn more, SSA will withhold $1 in benefits for every $2 you earn above that limit. But to answer your main question - no, taking widow benefits early will not reduce your retirement benefit at FRA. Those are calculated separately. Make sure you get a knowledgeable representative who understands the distinction between the two benefit types.

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Amara Chukwu

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Thank you for mentioning the earnings limit! I had completely forgotten about that. I'll need to be careful not to pick up too many extra shifts since I'm so close to the limit. Do you know if they count gross earnings or after-tax?

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Sofia Hernandez

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My mom did exactly what youre planning - took widow at 63 and switched to her own at 67. It worked fine! But she had to argue with the SSA person who kept trying to get her to apply for both at the same time which would have been a mistake. Be prepared to stand your ground and specifically ask to "restrict your application to widow benefits only." The earnings limit mentioned above is definitely something to watch though.

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Amara Chukwu

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It's good to hear your mom successfully did this! I'll definitely be prepared to stand my ground. Did she have to submit any special forms or wording to restrict her application? I'm worried about making a mistake on the paperwork.

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I think you might be confusing FRA with 70. If you take SS at 67 you don't get the max. Wait til 70 for that. Widow benefits are complicated tho so I could be wrong.

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Giovanni Conti

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You're mixing up two different things. Yes, retirement benefits increase until age 70 (not just FRA), but OP is asking about whether taking widow benefits now would reduce her own retirement benefit later, which it won't. Those are separate calculations.

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Ava Thompson

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After dealing with the exact same issue last year, I found it nearly impossible to get through to anyone at SSA who actually understood widow benefits correctly. I spent 3 weeks calling and getting disconnected or waiting on hold for hours only to get wrong information. I finally used Claimyr (claimyr.com) to get through to SSA in under 20 minutes. They have a service that navigates the phone system for you and calls you back when they have an agent on the line. Saved me so much frustration! You can see how it works here: https://youtu.be/Z-BRbJw3puU Once I actually got through, I was able to restrict my application to just widow benefits. Now I'll switch to my own at 67 just like you're planning.

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Amara Chukwu

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Thank you for the tip! I've been trying to call them all week with no luck. I'll check out that service - anything to avoid more 2-hour hold times that end in disconnection. Did you end up getting a knowledgeable representative when you used it?

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NeonNova

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Why does SSA CONSTANTLY give out wrong information?!?! This happens all the time! I was also told my widow's benefit would reduce my retirement and it was COMPLETELY FALSE. They make it so confusing on purpose I swear. When you go in, bring the exact regulation printed out - it's in their Program Operations Manual System (POMS). I don't have the exact reference but maybe someone else here does?

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Dylan Campbell

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The relevant POMS section is GN 00204.020 - "Withdrawal Considerations When Multiple Benefits are Involved." It specifically addresses that restricted applications for widow(er)'s benefits don't affect future entitlement to retirement benefits. You're right that having documentation helps tremendously when dealing with less knowledgeable representatives.

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just wondering but did ur husband work for railroad or government? sometimes that changes things with pensions and stuff i think

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Amara Chukwu

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No, he worked for a private company his whole career, so no government pension offset issues to worry about. That's a good point though - I know those situations can get more complicated!

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Giovanni Conti

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To follow up on your question about earnings - SSA counts GROSS earnings toward the limit, not net after taxes. And they count it when earned, not when paid (except for special payments like bonuses or accumulated vacation pay). Given that you're only $320 below the annual earnings limit, you might want to keep careful track of your income throughout the year. Going over by even a small amount could trigger withholding of some of your widow benefits.

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Amara Chukwu

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That's really helpful, thank you! I'll track my earnings carefully. Would it be better to apply for widow benefits after the start of the new year when the earnings limit might increase a bit? Or should I just be careful with my hours for the rest of this year?

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Dylan Campbell

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One more important point - when you do go to apply for your own retirement benefits at 67, make sure you specifically tell SSA you want to SWITCH from widow benefits to retirement benefits. Don't simply say you want to "apply for retirement" or they might just give you a small increase instead of recalculating the full amount you're entitled to based on your work record. Also, you can actually file for this switch online through your my Social Security account when the time comes, which might be easier than dealing with representatives who may not understand the rules.

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Amara Chukwu

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This is excellent advice! I'll definitely remember to be specific about switching from widow to retirement benefits when I turn 67. I didn't realize I could do this online - that's much better than trying to explain everything to a representative who might not understand. Thank you!

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