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Can I get higher Social Security benefits if my husband's income is double mine?

I'm getting confused about Social Security spousal benefits! My neighbor was talking about how she's getting some special benefit because her husband made way more money than her during their working years. Is this actually a thing? I make about $45,000 a year and my husband makes around $96,000. I'm 58 and he's 60, so we're starting to think about retirement in the next few years. Would I qualify for some kind of extra benefit based on his earnings instead of mine since he's made so much more? Or am I completely misunderstanding what my neighbor was talking about?

Nia Thompson

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Yes, you're referring to spousal benefits! If your own Social Security retirement benefit would be less than 50% of your husband's Primary Insurance Amount (PIA), you can receive the higher amount as a spousal benefit. So if your benefit would be $1,500 and his would be $3,200, you could potentially receive $1,600 (50% of his) instead of your $1,500. But there are important rules and timing considerations to maximize this benefit.

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Luca Esposito

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Oh thank you! So it IS real! Does that mean I should wait for him to file first? And what's a PIA?

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Mateo Rodriguez

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my mom got this! she only worked part time most of her life and dad had big income. she gets way more from his record than hers. its the best deal for couples with different incomes

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While it can be beneficial for some couples, it's not always "the best deal" - there are MANY factors to consider. For example, if the lower-earning spouse waits until their Full Retirement Age (FRA), they'll get the full 50%. But if they file early, the spousal benefit is permanently reduced. Also, spousal benefits don't earn delayed retirement credits beyond FRA like your own benefits would.

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You're definitely on the right track! What your neighbor was talking about is called a spousal benefit. Since your husband's earnings are significantly higher, you may qualify for up to 50% of his benefit amount if that's more than your own retirement benefit. Here's what you need to know: 1. Your husband must file for his benefits first before you can claim spousal benefits 2. You get the higher of either your own benefit or up to 50% of his (depending on your filing age) 3. If you claim before your Full Retirement Age (probably 67 for you), your spousal benefit will be reduced permanently 4. Unlike regular retirement benefits, spousal benefits don't increase if you wait beyond your FRA At your current income levels, it's very possible the spousal benefit would be advantageous for you.

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Ethan Wilson

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wait so does this mean she HAS to wait for him to retire before she can get anything? what if he wants to keep working but she wants to retire early?

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Nia Thompson

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To answer your questions: 1. PIA (Primary Insurance Amount) is the benefit a person would receive if they begin taking Social Security exactly at their Full Retirement Age. It's based on their highest 35 years of earnings. 2. Yes, your husband must file for his retirement benefits before you can receive spousal benefits. This is called the "deeming" rule. 3. However, if you need to retire earlier than him, you can start with your own benefit, and then when he files later, you can switch to the spousal benefit if it's higher (though there will be reductions if you're under FRA).

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Luca Esposito

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This is getting complicated! So I COULD start taking my own benefit at 62, but then when he retires later, I can switch to getting half of his? Would my early filing penalty affect that spousal amount though?

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Yes, if you file for benefits before your Full Retirement Age, the early filing reduction will affect your spousal benefit too. The reduction is permanent and can be substantial - up to 30% if you file at 62. For example, if your full spousal benefit would be $1,600 at your FRA, but you file at 62, you might only get around $1,120 for life. This is why timing is so critical with Social Security claiming strategies. Also, be aware that in 2023, the SSA changed some rules around how benefits are calculated when you switch from your own to spousal benefits. It's important to get updated information directly from SSA before making your decision.

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Yuki Tanaka

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The SSA didn't change the rules in 2023 about switching from retirement to spousal benefits. What changed was the COLA adjustment of 8.7%, not the calculation method. Let's not spread misinformation - I worked for SSA for 22 years and these basic rules have been consistent for decades.

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Carmen Diaz

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Try getting a straight answer from SS about this!!! I've been trying for WEEKS to get someone on the phone to explain my spousal options. Either you sit on hold for 3+ hours or they just disconnect you. So frustrating!!! I finally got through yesterday and then the agent gave me conflicting information about my options. How are we supposed to plan retirement when we can't even get consistent answers??????

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you guys are making this way harder than it needs to be! just go to ssa.gov and make an account and it shows your estimate right there. my wife logged in and saw what she'd get on her own record vs spousal and its all calculated for you

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Luca Esposito

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I do have an account there but it only shows my own benefit estimate, not what I'd get as a spouse. Maybe I'm missing something in the website?

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Yuki Tanaka

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The MySocialSecurity account doesn't automatically show spousal benefit estimates - it only shows your own retirement benefit. For spousal estimates, you need to either call SSA directly or use their detailed calculators. One important point that hasn't been mentioned yet: if you're still working when you claim benefits before FRA, the earnings test may apply. For 2025, if you earn more than approximately $22,500 while receiving benefits before FRA, SSA will withhold $1 in benefits for every $2 you earn above that limit. Also, the 50% spousal benefit is reduced by your own benefit amount. You don't get both. So if your benefit is $1,500 and 50% of your husband's is $1,600, you'd get your $1,500 plus $100 additional as the spousal portion.

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Ethan Wilson

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wait so you DON'T actually get half? if her benefit is $1500 and his is $3200, she doesn't get $1500 + $1600?? That's so misleading how they explain it!

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Correct - you don't get both benefits added together. The way it actually works is: 1. You get your own retirement benefit amount 2. If 50% of your spouse's benefit is higher than your own benefit, you get the DIFFERENCE added on So in your example with your $45K salary vs his $96K salary: - Your benefit might be around $1,500/month - His might be around $3,200/month - 50% of his would be $1,600 - You would receive your $1,500 + $100 extra = $1,600 total This is why for couples with very disparate incomes (like one spouse who didn't work much or at all), the spousal benefit is more significant.

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Luca Esposito

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Thank you so much for explaining it this way! Now I get it. Since our incomes are different but I've worked steadily, the benefit for me might be relatively small, but it's still worth considering. I think we'll need to sit down with a financial advisor who understands Social Security to figure out the best timing for both of us.

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