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my cousin worked for ssa for 30 yrs and she always said the wep is the most complicated thing they deal with!! even the agents get confused about it sometimes lol. just keep working and saving ur money dont count on ss to save u
Thanks everyone for all the helpful information! I'm going to try to increase my hours at the bookstore to see if I can get closer to the substantial earnings threshold, though $28,050 might be a stretch for part-time work. Even if I can't eliminate the WEP completely, it sounds like there's still value in continuing to work and pay into Social Security. I'll be keeping track of my earnings more carefully now that I understand how this works. And I might try that Claimyr service to finally speak with someone at SSA and get information specific to my situation. Really appreciate all the advice!
just wonderin - how long were u married to ur ex? cuz i think theres a 10 yr rule for ex-spouse benefits. if u were married less than 10 yrs u might not be eligible anyway
We were married for 14 years, so I definitely meet that requirement! I've done some research and I know I need to have been married at least 10 years, not be currently remarried (my husband passed, so I'm not), and my ex needs to have been eligible for Social Security (which he was). So I think I qualify on all counts.
Based on all the information shared, here's what will likely happen: 1. Your phone interview on December 10th will proceed as scheduled 2. You'll explain the death certificate delay situation 3. SSA will take your application and mark it pending until the certificate arrives 4. Once you submit the certificate in January, they'll finish processing your claim 5. If approved, benefits will be paid retroactive to your application date (or the appropriate entitlement date) One important note: Since you're already receiving survivor benefits on your husband's record, SSA will determine which benefit amount is higher. You won't receive both - just the higher of the two amounts. The good news is that this switch is usually pretty straightforward since SSA already has most of your information in their system from your current claim.
Thank you for breaking it down so clearly! That makes perfect sense. And yes, I understand I'll only get the higher of the two benefit amounts - my ex-husband's benefit would be about $780 more per month than what I'm currently receiving, so it's definitely worth making the switch. I appreciate everyone's help with this!
@OP Yes, there will be a gap. After your youngest turns 16, your caregiver benefits stop, and you won't be eligible again until either your own early retirement age (62) or your full retirement age. This is often called the "caregiver gap" and unfortunately, there's not much you can do about it unless you qualify for some other type of benefit. Many people return to work during this period if possible.
THIS IS THE WORST PART OF THE SYSTEM!!! Why should the caregiver benefit just STOP at 16? Kids still need parents from 16-18/19!!! The SSA acts like teenagers can just raise themselves after 16. It's a terrible policy and needs to be changed. I hit this gap last year and suddenly lost $1300/month that we were counting on.
One more important thing: Benefits for children and caregivers may reduce the total family benefits due to the Family Maximum Benefit limit, but they do NOT reduce your husband's own retirement benefit. His check stays the same regardless of how many dependents receive benefits on his record. And yes, you'll have a gap between when your youngest turns 16 and when you can claim retirement benefits (earliest at 62).
Just to clarify something important about survivor benefits that many people misunderstand: If you're already at full retirement age when you apply for widow's benefits, you'll get 100% of your deceased spouse's benefit amount. But if you take your own retirement early (before your FRA), and then later switch to survivor benefits, your survivor benefit won't be reduced. However, if you take survivor benefits early (before your survivor FRA), they will be reduced. The reduction amounts are different than for regular retirement benefits. This is why it's so important to compare scenarios like the agent did for you. Sometimes taking your own reduced benefit first, then switching to survivor benefits at your FRA is the best strategy.
Thank you for this explanation! That's exactly what the agent was showing me - that I could take my own reduced retirement now at 63, then switch to the full survivor benefit when I reach my FRA at 66 and 8 months. The numbers worked out better than waiting for everything. The GPO will reduce it some but not enough to change the strategy.
My mother had a similar experience when my dad passed. She was shocked they answered all her questions by phone. I think people don't realize that for many common situations (especially straightforward survivor benefits), they've really improved their phone service. Now getting through and not being on hold for 2 hours is another story...
Isabella Santos
also don't forget that COLA for 2026 is supposed to be announced soon! thats probably more important for your benefits than this executive order thing
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ShadowHunter
•Actually, the 2026 COLA (Cost of Living Adjustment) won't be announced until October 2025. The COLA for 2025 will be announced in October 2024. It's based on the third-quarter Consumer Price Index, and they need the September numbers to make the calculation. But you're right that the annual COLA will likely have a more direct impact on benefit amounts than this executive order.
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Malik Johnson
Thanks everyone for all the helpful responses! I feel much better now understanding that this doesn't affect my actual Social Security benefits. I think I need to be more careful about what news I listen to - they made it sound much more dramatic than it actually is.
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Freya Larsen
•You shouldnt trust everything ppl tell you online either!!! Do your own research!!! The government doesn't want you to know whats REALLY happening with social security!!!
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