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Can I claim Social Security survivor benefits from first husband who died if my third husband was a state employee?

I'm turning 60 this weekend and trying to figure out my Social Security options with a complicated marital history. I've been married three times - my first marriage lasted 14 years before divorce, my second ended in divorce too, and my third husband (who was the love of my life) passed away 18 years ago. Recently found out my first ex-husband died about two years ago. My third husband worked for the state government his entire career and never paid into Social Security. I'm wondering if I qualify for survivor benefits from my first husband since we were married for 14 years? Does the fact that my third husband didn't pay into SS affect my eligibility for benefits from my first marriage? I'm planning to contact Social Security soon but wanted to see if anyone has experience with multiple marriages and survivor benefits. Thanks for any help!

GalaxyGazer

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Yes, you likely qualify for survivor benefits from your first husband since you were married for more than 10 years and never remarried before age 60. The fact that your third husband worked in a job not covered by Social Security doesn't affect your eligibility for benefits from your first husband's record. You can claim these benefits as early as age 60, but they'll be reduced (about 28.5% reduction at age 60 compared to your full retirement age). I'd recommend scheduling an appointment with SSA to discuss all your options, as you might also be able to claim your own retirement benefits later if they'd be higher.

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Nia Harris

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Thank you so much for this info! This gives me hope. So even though I was married to my third husband when he died (state employee), I can still claim from my first husband who paid into Social Security? That's what I wasn't clear on. I was worried that being widowed from someone with a state pension might block me from other SS benefits.

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Mateo Sanchez

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When I tried calling social security about my widow benefits it took FOREVER to get through!!! i called like 6 times and kept getting disconnected after waiting for an hour each time, so frustrating. my situation wasnt exactly like yours but similar cause i had multiple marriages too

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Nia Harris

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Ugh, that sounds awful! I've heard the phone lines are terrible. Did you ever get through to them? I'm dreading making that call.

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Aisha Mahmood

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The key thing here is that you were married to your first husband for more than 10 years, and you'll be 60 when you apply - both requirements for divorced spouse survivor benefits. The fact that your third husband didn't pay into Social Security means you might be subject to the Government Pension Offset (GPO) if you receive a pension from his state employment. But that only affects benefits based on HIS record, not your first husband's. Make sure to bring your marriage certificate and divorce decree from your first marriage when you go to SSA.

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Ethan Moore

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This is right but I think she said her third husband died 18 years ago so shes a widow not divorced from him. Does that matter for the GPO rules? I'm in a similar boat with my late husband who worked for the railroad.

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Yuki Kobayashi

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Nia Harris

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Thank you for the recommendation! I hadn't heard of this service before. If I can't get through on my own, I'll definitely try it. Did they have to look up all your marriage records when you called?

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Carmen Vega

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I think ur gonna have 2 deal with the WEP thing cause of ur state worker husband. My mom lost like half her ss money cause of that! It's so unfair how they do that to people!

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GalaxyGazer

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You're thinking of the Government Pension Offset (GPO), not the Windfall Elimination Provision (WEP). And it only applies if she's receiving a pension based on her late husband's state employment. The GPO wouldn't affect survivor benefits from her first husband if she's not receiving a pension from the state job herself. It's a common confusion but an important distinction.

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QuantumQuester

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I'm so sorry about your losses. The rules about multiple marriages and Social Security are EXTREMELY CONFUSING!!!! I've been trying to figure out my own situation for months. The SSA website says one thing, then when you call they tell you something completely different. I spent THREE HOURS at the office last week and still don't have clear answers. It's ridiculous how they make this so complicated!!!

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Nia Harris

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That's exactly what I'm afraid of! I've been reading the SSA website and it's so confusing with all the exceptions and special rules. Did you ever get your situation resolved?

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Aisha Mahmood

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To clarify about your specific situation: since your first husband paid into Social Security and you were married for more than 10 years, you're eligible for survivor benefits based on his record starting at age 60. The fact that your third husband worked for the state in non-covered employment only matters if you're receiving a pension from his employment. If you are receiving such a pension, the Government Pension Offset might reduce any benefits based on HIS work - but not benefits from your first husband. When you turn 62, you can also claim your own retirement benefits if they would be higher.

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Nia Harris

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Thank you for explaining this so clearly. I'm not receiving any pension from my third husband's state employment. So it sounds like I should be eligible for the full survivor benefit from my first husband (reduced for claiming early at 60). This is such a relief to know!

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Ethan Moore

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congrats on turning 60! Im in the same boat, multiple marriages and trying to figure out SS. Did you know you can apply online? I tried but got confused with all the questions about my marriages so ended up going to the office instead. Bring all your marriage certificates and death certificates!

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Mateo Sanchez

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My uncle was a state worker and my aunt couldn't get his SS either, something about the windfall provision I think? But she got his pension so it worked out ok. Good luck!

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Aisha Mahmood

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Just to avoid confusion: State workers who don't pay into Social Security don't earn Social Security benefits, so there are no SS benefits to claim from them. That's different from the Windfall Elimination Provision (WEP), which reduces your own SS benefits if you also receive a pension from non-covered work. The Government Pension Offset (GPO) reduces spousal/survivor benefits if you receive a pension from non-covered work. But in the original poster's case, if she's not receiving a pension from her third husband's state work, these provisions likely don't apply to her.

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GalaxyGazer

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After reading through all the comments, I think your situation is actually more straightforward than it might seem. Since you were married to your first husband for more than 10 years before divorcing, and you'll be 60 when applying, you should be eligible for survivor benefits on his record now that he's deceased. The fact that you later married other people doesn't affect this eligibility since you're over 60 now. When you contact SSA, ask specifically about 'surviving divorced spouse benefits.' Also, make sure to compare this amount with what you might get on your own record when you reach 62, as you can switch to whichever is higher later.

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Nia Harris

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Thank you so much for this clear explanation. I'll specifically ask about 'surviving divorced spouse benefits' when I contact them. It's a relief to know that my later marriages don't complicate my eligibility since I'm turning 60. I truly appreciate everyone's help!

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